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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #36 on: Friday 15 June 18 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi if I read the marriage certificate correctly, George was living in Tyler Street, the George Placket aged 13 was living there in 1851?
Census ref HO107/2132/733/5
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Hi there,

Thank you for looking that up, I would not have made that connection and it is adding to the evidence that George Palmer was George Plackitt (another connection I would not have made). Thank you for your help
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #37 on: Friday 15 June 18 23:23 BST (UK) »
Hi again, could also be shown aged 14 visiting a William Flinders at 5, Carlton Row occ Labourer.
Census ref HO107/2132/505/33?
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Thank you, I hadn't found this census record before, I find it hard to get out of my 21st century brain sometimes and remember that many children were workers and moved around on their own. Unfortunately I can't find the census record (mostly because I don't know how to search with William Flinder's name also to help pick it out). Did you notice where this George was born please?
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #38 on: Friday 15 June 18 23:29 BST (UK) »
Hi again, Harriett Rogers on marriage certificate was in Platt Street, in 1851 transcribed as PLAT Street is a Harriett Rogers aged 9 with parents Thomas occ Tailor/Sarah
Census ref HO107/2132/644/46
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Hi there,
I love all this new information that you are finding and am quite in awe at how you are putting things together, I have so many more avenues to search, thank you very much. I wonder if George met Harriett through their fathers, both being in the textile trade. I guess I will never know. It is great to have the mothers name as this is my Dad's mum's side of the family, he had his mitochondrial DNA tested which shows 32% Ashkenazi Jewish DNA and I am hoping to get some clues to this from his female line. Now I know Thomas was with Sarah I can trace the marriage. Mind you this mitochondrial information could be 10,000 years old so I am not likely to find a paper trail!
Best wishes, Em
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #39 on: Friday 15 June 18 23:33 BST (UK) »
Hi in 1851 census George Placket 13 was living at 11, Tyler Street, Nottingham, in 1861 a Mary Palmer 51? Widow b Castle Donnington was living there?
Census ref RG09/2462/7/7
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EDIT At 12, Tyler Street is:-
Henry Plackett 41 ( Hackett on FindMyPast ) occ Labourer
Bessie 39
Robert 12
Emma Stevenson 2 or 21?
Census ref RG09/2462/7/8
Believe Henry dies March qtr 1864 Nottingham aged 45

Then we have 1871:-

Elizabeth Plackett 50 Widow
Robert 23 Son
Mary Jessop 70 Mother
Emma Plackett 13 Grandaughter?
RG10/3521/10/11
Keyboard86

Wow this is great, thank you. I will try and find out more about George's mum Elizabeth, it is possible she was a Jessop I guess and perhaps she had a sister called Mary who was with George? Finding him with another Palmer could be coincidence but I feel it adds even more evidence that the Georges are the same and explains so man things. All of these connections are amazing, thank you
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #40 on: Friday 15 June 18 23:38 BST (UK) »
Hi again, could also be shown aged 14 visiting a William Flinders at 5, Carlton Row occ Labourer.
Census ref HO107/2132/505/33?
Keyboard86

Thank you, I hadn't found this census record before, I find it hard to get out of my 21st century brain sometimes and remember that many children were workers and moved around on their own. Unfortunately I can't find the census record (mostly because I don't know how to search with William Flinder's name also to help pick it out). Did you notice where this George was born please?

George, was George Plackett aged 14 born Nottingham, William Flinders was 71 occ Coal Dealer wife Elizabeth 63, George could have been just a visiting friend of the son James Flinders 15 son?? If so he in 1851 is shown on two census returns.
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PS the 1861 Mary Palmer age I would check out as could be 58 on original, who then possibly is the Mary Jessop in 1871??
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 16 June 18 00:31 BST (UK) »
Hi again, could also be shown aged 14 visiting a William Flinders at 5, Carlton Row occ Labourer.
Census ref HO107/2132/505/33?
Keyboard86

Thank you, I hadn't found this census record before, I find it hard to get out of my 21st century brain sometimes and remember that many children were workers and moved around on their own. Unfortunately I can't find the census record (mostly because I don't know how to search with William Flinder's name also to help pick it out). Did you notice where this George was born please?

George, was George Plackett aged 14 born Nottingham, William Flinders was 71 occ Coal Dealer wife Elizabeth 63, George could have been just a visiting friend of the son James Flinders 15 son?? If so he in 1851 is shown on two census returns.
Keyboard86

PS the 1861 Mary Palmer age I would check out as could be 58 on original, who then possibly is the Mary Jessop in 1871??

Ahh OK hadn't thought of that, I will look out for this, thanks ever so much for the pointer and further detail re 1851 :)
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 17:18 BST (UK) »
Hi still looking at this thread for you, it is the Robert Plackett b c 1847 Nottingham that puzzles me ( at least his birth ) ,Their is a death March qtr 1847 Nottingham aged 1 and the one I have followed 1907 Nottingham aged 60
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hi still looking at this thread for you, it is the Robert Plackett b c 1847 Nottingham that puzzles me ( at least his birth ) ,Their is a death March qtr 1847 Nottingham aged 1 and the one I have followed 1907 Nottingham aged 60
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Hi Keyboard86,
 Thank you very much for continuing to look into this. I have been looking at him too and am currently testing the following :

1851
Henry Placket   35
Elizabeth Placket   30
George Placket   13
Elizabeth Placket   7
Robert Placket   3
Piece   2132
Folio   733
Page number   5

1861
Henry Plackett   
Bessy Plackett   
Robert Plackett   
Emma Stevenson
Piece   2462
Folio   7
Page number   8

1871
Elizabeth Plackett   50
Mary Jessop   70
Robert Plackett   23
Emma Plackett   13
Caroline Stacey   38
Laura Davis   14
Piece   3521
Folio   10
Page number   11

1881 - Possible
Robert Plackett   32
Elizabeth Plackett   30
Elizabeth Plackett   14 (perhaps adopted as I can find nothing on GRO).
Piece   3359
Folio   116
Page number   17

1891 - Possible
Robt Plackett   43
Elizth Plackett   43
Elizth Plackett    24
Piece   2703
Folio   121

1901 - Possible
Robert Plackett   52
Elizabeth Plackett   50
Elizabeth Plackett   33
Piece   3169
Folio   122
Page number   22
Household schedule number   151

But so far no death

I am having a similar problem placing members of my Myers family in another post!!! I wish I could go back in time and just ask them!!!

Thanks again for your help.


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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 22:58 BST (UK) »
Hi again, if you use Ancestry I believe his death is shown  Robert Placett 1907
The Emma Stevenson/Emma Plackett possibly married a Richard Hollingworth/Hollingsworth 8th December 1867 St Peters, Nottinghamshire.
1871 census RG10/3512/38/33
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