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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 May 18 17:35 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately we don’t know how old George Harwood Palmer was at the time of his 1840 baptism.  Can’t see a birth registration, so perhaps he was born before civil registration began on 1 July 1837.
 

 Thanks for looking. On the New York State census 1875 it has his b as 1840 but he could have been born before this as you mention. It could also be that although his middle name was Harwood when he was christened he was registered as only George Palmer?

I can’t see any George Palmer birth registration at all in Basford district 1837-1841.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 May 18 17:39 BST (UK) »
Hi all the 1840 birth could be the George Harwood Palmer In Bunny parents John /Jane, and also a possible George Palmer 19th February 1838 St Mary Nottingham Mother Elizabeth abode Brook Street.
Just a couple of suggestions!
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Hi there, lovely, thanks so much for the suggestions, I will take a look.
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)

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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 May 18 17:42 BST (UK) »
Going back a step, why are we looking for a George born in Bunny at all?

The George who married Harriet and was the father of Louisa is as follows:

1861: Aged 22, circus performer, born Nottingham
1871: Aged 32, confectioner, born Nottingham
1881: Aged 44, confectioner, born Nottingham
1891: Aged 52, photographer, born Nottingham

Is there any link to Bunny at all?  I suggest the illegitimate birth (mother Elizabeth) in Nottingham - mother Elizabeth - is the lead I would be prioritising.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 May 18 17:44 BST (UK) »
You say that George Palmer’s 1838 birth is shown in the GRO index without a mother’s maiden name, but I am not seeing it at all.  Registration district for Bunny should be Basford.

The only GRO birth I could find that might have been relevant was this = GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 565 mdn not listed -. In 1861 George is a circus performer, maybe if his parents were he might not have been christened where he was registered?
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)


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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 May 18 17:45 BST (UK) »
Hi the George Palmer baptism 1838 St Mary, possibly not him, as it looks like Elizabeth Palmer marries a Henry Plackett 22nd June 1840 St Mary, in 1841 census the family are transcribed as PLACKITT, George being shown as George Plackitt aged 3
Census ref HO107/869/ 4/16 / 25
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 May 18 17:46 BST (UK) »
Hi the George Palmer baptism 1838 St Mary, possibly not him, as it looks like Elizabeth Palmer marries a Henry Plackett 22nd June 1840 St Mary, in 1841 census the family are transcribed as PLACKITT, George being shown as George Plackitt aged 3
Census ref HO107/869/ 4/16 / 25
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Interesting - I wouldn’t write him off though; stepchildren often reverted to their birth surnames on marriage.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 May 18 17:51 BST (UK) »
Hi the George Palmer baptism 1838 St Mary, possibly not him, as it looks like Elizabeth Palmer marries a Henry Plackett 22nd June 1840 St Mary, in 1841 census the family are transcribed as PLACKITT, George being shown as George Plackitt aged 3
Census ref HO107/869/ 4/16 / 25
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That is really interesting, thank you very much for the new lead :)
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)

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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 May 18 18:09 BST (UK) »
Which George Palmer do you have in New York in 1875 I can one who's a boss on the railroad ?
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Trying to find parents of George Palmer b1838 Notts
« Reply #17 on: Monday 28 May 18 18:17 BST (UK) »
Which George Palmer do you have in New York in 1875 I can one who's a boss on the railroad ?
It is George h Palmer married to Sarah, b 1940 England, it came up as a hint and is in someone's tree on ancestry but I can't access the doc to see his profession and it isn't my George who is in the UK in 1861/71/81 so I didn't investigate further, it was more that the children born to John and Ann in 1851 census go to America but with John and Jane not Ann that got me looking. However I now think John and Ann are not my George's parents at all so I am at a loss to who his parents might be!!! Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)