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[Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« on: Monday 28 May 18 23:09 BST (UK) »
Hello fellow researchers.

Over committed at the moment, so help would be appreciated.

Last night as the clock turned over to a new day, I was attempting to put together a 300 word bio on Pukekohe woman Helen SHARP nee SHARP for  ‘Lady Mary’ and their Franklan County Woman’s suffrage petition project.

Went to check informal information supplied to me in the 1980’s, by a niece [since died] re one of Helen’s sons,  Alexander [William John] SHARP and found the B D & M registration gave his wife’s maiden name as BRASS. Marriage 1908 / 1683.  That was a surprise to me.

Alexander died at Auckland in 1923 aged 54.  1923/1160.  Searches of the other names I have, did not provide the results I was looking for confirmation, of the oral history supplied. However last night the PP service would not allow me to refine my search to just Auckland newspapers, so with search criteria of ‘A & SHARP’ the hits were excessively large, even with narrow date time lines. I also attempted to find evidence of Alice in either the Pukekohe East, or Gordonton communities, prior to marriage to Alexander SHARP, but was unable in the time available.

Alexander and his younger brother James went to farm at Gordonton in the Waikato in 1906. Their parents Wm & Helen SHARP sold out and moved down to them in October 1906. Alexander’s health failed him, so he sold out in 1916 and relocated to Auckland, where he ran a general store / dairy / bike shop until his death, I believe in the Grafton area. Have previously seen some adverts etc on Papers Past.

Oral information supplied to me which I would like to verify. Some already published in reunion books, but I would prefer to validate, and not perpetuate miss information.

Alice [Elizabeth Alice] on a Mortgage transfer document, maiden name BRASS [NZ, B D & M 1908/1683] but niece supplied info had Alice LEA-HIGGANBOTHAN married to Alexander SHARP in 1908, bringing to the marriage sons Arthur LEA [married PRICE of Thames] and George LEA, who I believe became a farmer at Ngongataha, Rotorua. Alice and Alexander had one son Alexander [Sandy] SHARP.   1908 / 25397.

Before submitting the bio to the Pukekohe NZSG group, I would like to know more about Alice prior to her marriage to Alexander SHARP.  Eg to sort out the BRASS – LEA – HIGGANBOTHAN surnames.

Regards,

Alan.
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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 01:13 BST (UK) »
Have you considered Higginbotham as a variant spelling?  Or Higinbotham?
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 01:19 BST (UK) »
You have this birth:

1880/4076   Brass   Alice   Margaret   Thomas
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 01:27 BST (UK) »
Here is something to consider:

Birth
1889/18292, HEGINBOTHAM, Alice, Louisa, George, 0
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM


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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 01:38 BST (UK) »
It would appear that this Alice married:

1911/6990   Alice   Heginbotham   John William Fairfax   Norrie   
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 02:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Twiggy for having a look up for me.

I have some major dead lines to meet over the next month, and am too over committed to look further into this family.

Some 20+ years ago, I was able to assist a Gt Grand daughter, with South Auckland connections, to find relatives in Australia. Initally I told her I could not help, but then found a missing link.

I know nothing about Alice other than she was known as Alice [Aunty Alice etc.] I have seen a 1924 mortgage transfer document naming her as Elizabeth Alice SHARP. Both her husband and their son Alexander, were most commonly referred to as Sandy SHARP. Other than that name spellings is open, as info recieved was oral, and notes taken at that time.

Besides I can not spell, nor am I any good at proofreading my own copy late at night. I read what I want to read, and not necessarily what is in print.

Thanks.

Alan.
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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 03:51 BST (UK) »
Burial record for Alexander William Sharp
Date of death
29 July 1923*
Age at death
54
Gender
Male
Region
West
Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery
Plot location
Anglican Division F Row 7, Plot 30
Remains type
Burial
Date of burial
2 August 1923
Funeral director
J Weir & Company Limited
Map location
Map data not available

*Date of death differs from that shown in Letters of Administration.

Letters of Administration:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSS4-7SMP-T?i=415&cc=1865481

Death:

1961/36185   Sharp   Elizabeth Alice   82Y

Birth of their son:

1918/6726   Sharp   Alexander Thomas   Elizabeth Alice   Alexander William John

Burial record for Elizabeth Alice Sharp
Date of death
30 September 1961
Age at death
82 years
Gender
Female
Region
South
Cemetery name
Pukekohe Cemetery, 82 Wellington Street, Pukekohe
Plot location
Pkwes-H-035
Remains type
Burial
Date of burial
3 October 1961
Map location
Map data not available


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 03:55 BST (UK) »
Death of the above mentioned son..........

1988/40473   Sharp   Alexander Thomas   14 March 1918


Added: Probated will [1962] of Elizabeth Alice Sharp:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=14779052



Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: [Elizabeth] Alice SHARP nee BRASS ??
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 May 18 04:20 BST (UK) »
The BRASS family (?)........

Marriage:

1869/7764   Margaret   Smith   Thomas   Brass

Their children (?):

1882/13267   Brass   Amy Bertha   Margaret   Thomas

1880/4076   Brass   Alice    Margaret   Thomas   [as shown in earlier post]   

1876/6360   Brass   Beatrice   Margaret   Thomas      

1874/23433   Brass   George   Margaret   Thomas   -   

1870/29830   Brass   Margaret   Margaret   Thomas      

1872/29076   Brass   John Thomas   Margaret   Thomas


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.