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At Sea Navy Death
« on: Wednesday 30 May 18 03:58 BST (UK) »
Looking for a death at sea of James Gilligan between 1828 and 1851. Reputed to be an officer in the Royal Navy but that is just a claim from an 1859 wedding entry.

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 10:45 BST (UK) »
I can find a death for a James Gilligan who died of Fever on board a ship called P. Dean in Curacao 1st January 1855. No rank given.

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 12:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks emeltom

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 14:05 BST (UK) »
It may be an idea to give some info. about your relative e.g. where/when born & where/what occupation in 1841?

It may help others if they have a circa yr of birth to find a possible death?

What makes you believe James Gilligan died before 1852 if he was deceased on an 1859 marriage?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 21:04 BST (UK) »
Because I do not have any of that information. The start date is because the son who married in 1859 was born. He does not appear in census and end date of 1851 is picked as son is working for a grocer in 1841, most likely wife is in a house with 3 late teens of different names and birth places in 1841, and widowed and a servant for an extremely elderly Navy Captain in 1851 and appears to have gone back to the Brompton Cheltenham area to die in 1857. All the other dead on land James Gilligans from 1837 onwards are either wrong age to be a Father in 1828 or up in Lancashire Yorkshire area. Possible wife was born circa 1797 and a brother in  circa 1818. It is of course possible he died between 1828 and 1837 in which case I am most likely never going to find him. I was taking a punt that he died at sea and a larger pay site that I do not have access to has Navy as sea death records for that time period.

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 23:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info. re dates, it is helpful.

"appears to have gone back to the Brompton Cheltenham"...

From where & where was son born?

"or up in Lancashire Yorkshire"...

Rather than where?


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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 May 18 02:54 BST (UK) »
The son James (William) gives a birth place of Brompton. Because both Son and possible wife were consistently in southern England. (Kent and London) 1828, 1841,1851,1857,1859,1861 and 1867. A fourth cousin, here in NZ, says James William met his German wife at court, and she had close ties to the House of Hanover and he was a royal merchant for Bovril/oxo. Possible Wife gives a birthplace of Middlesex.

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 May 18 03:44 BST (UK) »
OK the possible wife was a servant for Captain George Belson of the Royal Marines and was based at Chatham not the Cheltenham I mentioned earlier. He passed on in 1855 just shy of 90.

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Re: At Sea Navy Death
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 May 18 03:52 BST (UK) »
There is a burial in Chatham 5 May 1832 for a James Gilligan aged 55.
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