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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 31 May 18 06:17 BST (UK) »
Maybe Mr & Mrs V SCARFF are on the 1939 register - I didn't spot a man with initial V on FreeBMD marriages from 1915-1940.  I'll see if I can track him with Charles Henry's mmn.

Possible male births:
SCARFF Thomas Daniel Sep qtr 1875 vol 1d p485 Lambeth mmn CANDLER
SCARFF Ernest Frank Jun qtr 1878 Lambeth vol 1d p501 mmn CANDLER
SCARFF William Daniel Dec qtr 1882 Lambeth vol 1d p473 mmn CANDLER
SCARFF John Edward Dec qtr 1883 Lambeth vol 1d p487 mmn CANDLER
SCARFF Charles Henry Jun qtr 1886 Lambeth vol 1d p476 mmn CANDLER
but no males with initial V

marriage:
Dec qtr 1874 Poplar vol 1c p1327 - 4 on page including Thomas SCARFF and Addelet CANDLER

I can't find a trace of George marrying Daisy in England/Wales.

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 31 May 18 06:32 BST (UK) »
Following lines forward (from information on FreeBMD up to 1983) https://www.freebmd.org.uk/:

William LOWTH born 1920, killed in action 1 May 1943
possible marriage Sep qtr 1939 Leicester vol 7a p857 to HUNTER, but no children found for this marriage
No other marriage found for William or William R
Presumed no descendants


Good hunting.
Philip

A note of caution here....the 1920 birth came from a William R Louth living in Hayes;  the 1939 marriage in Leicestershire is possibly the Wiliam R Louth who was born 1913.

No age is shown on WR Louth's entry on CWGC.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 31 May 18 06:43 BST (UK) »
Relatives of Leon HANNAM
born Dec qtr 1920 Islington vol 1b p359, mmn MANNOCH

(sister) born Dec qtr 1928 Islington vol 1b p392 mmn MANNOCH
probable marriage:
Mar qtr 1957 Islington vol 5c p2481 to POLLINTINE
No births or deaths on FreeBMD from 1957 to 1983.
192.com has (possibly) her in 2002 in Radlett, Hertfordshire
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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 31 May 18 06:49 BST (UK) »
William LOWTH born 1920, killed in action 1 May 1943
possible marriage Sep qtr 1939 Leicester vol 7a p857 to HUNTER, but no children found for this marriage
No other marriage found for William or William R
Presumed no descendants

A note of caution here....the 1920 birth came from a William R Louth living in Hayes;  the 1939 marriage in Leicestershire is possibly the Wiliam R Louth who was born 1913.

I agree.  I put this in as a possibility in case there were descendants of a war widow who had subsequently remarried (not blood-kin to William) but the 1913 William birth makes it very unlikely.

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 31 May 18 09:46 BST (UK) »
Here's his entry on the IBCC database:

https://internationalbcc.co.uk/losses/louth-wr/


Sadly no more personal detail.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 31 May 18 12:04 BST (UK) »
Here's his entry on the IBCC database:
https://internationalbcc.co.uk/losses/louth-wr/
Sadly no more personal detail.

I think we now have everything we need on William LOUTH and his relatives.  We have moved on to searching for relatives of Leon HANNAM, Thomas Deuel SCARFF and the other crew members.

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 31 May 18 12:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks;  I posted that for David as not sure if he would be aware of it.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 31 May 18 12:27 BST (UK) »
Here's an obit for the brother of TD SCARFF.

https://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id-171382/Ben_Scarff

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 31 May 18 12:42 BST (UK) »
Here's an obit for the brother of TD SCARFF.

https://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id-171382/Ben_Scarff

Maureen

Wow!  Lots of family names and two church names.  It may be possible to find e-mail addresses for the churches online.

(ADDED - the web page http://mb.churchdirectory.ca/winnipeg/st-james-gospel-chapel/ gives a street address and a button to click to make contact by e-mail.)

Am I missing a step here?  What evidence do we have that Benjamin George (1922-2010) was the brother of Thomas Deuel (1919-43)?
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