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Nathan's in America
« on: Thursday 31 May 18 11:30 BST (UK) »
Trying to locate the record of my great grandfather coming over to the US from Romania and any other records of his family in the US.

His name was Moritz Nathan and he was a sheetmetal worker in Romania. It is not known if he was born in Romania only that he lived there at the time of the birth of his daughter Anna.
He was born abt 1865 based on the birth certificate of his daughter Anna.

At the time of his daughter's birth he was living in Bucharest Romania with his wife Charlotte.

Based on what was related to me by family, Moritz later lived with his family in Chicago and had a sheetmetal shop in Chicago.

Moritz's wife Charlotte Nathan and his daughters Anna and Cilla came over to
the US on Sep 8, 1903 on the Statendam. On the record it appears to say Charlotte is going to meet her husband M Nathan in Cincinnati. Based on this, it can be deduced he had already come over to the US. I can not locate his ship record and I am specifically targetting a date before the Sep 8, 1903 arrival date.

Also the youngest daughter Cilla is 1 year and 6 months at arrival, so Moritz probably came over to the US at most 2 1/4 years previous.

Also looking for any records of this Nathan family in Chicago during their stay there.

It is known another child was born in the US named Beby or some variant thereof. It is also known the entire Nathan family returned to Romania for good sometime in the early 1920's.

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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 May 18 17:34 BST (UK) »
Morris Nathan appears in the Cincinnati city directories for 1905 and 1906.  [The entries are identical for both years.]  He was not listed in 1904 or 1907.

Cincinnati City Directory 1905
http://digital.cincinnatilibrary.org/digital/collection/p16998coll5/id/93458/rec/5

Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 June 18 10:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this clue!!!! Based on this, I looked for birth of a Nathan child in Cincinnati during those years but did not find anything....

I also found an entry for Nathan Moritz (first name and last name transposed) and his last residence is Bucharest, his birth year is 1865, he came over in 1902 and he is visiting a cousin in Philadelphia named Schera at an address I can not read. See:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-GSM3-5?i=556&cc=1368704
Not familiar with Schera in Philadelphia or what to make of this, but certain things seem to fit such as his last residence, when he came over and his birth year...….

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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 June 18 14:57 BST (UK) »
Yes, I looked for a birth, too, but no luck.  And I just can't find this family in the 1910 or 1920 census.  Are there any other family members who went to the United States that he could have been living with?
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis


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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 June 18 15:33 BST (UK) »
None that I know of. Only possibly the cousin Schera in my last post, but not sure even who that might be. They are Jewish and not sure Schera would be a Jewish name. Another angle might be that Charlotte's maiden name was Solomon. Could they have been living under that name? Not sure why they would do that though.

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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 June 18 15:50 BST (UK) »
I also found an entry for Nathan Moritz (first name and last name transposed) and his last residence is Bucharest, his birth year is 1865, he came over in 1902 and he is visiting a cousin in Philadelphia named Schera at an address I can not read. See:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-GSM3-5?i=556&cc=1368704

The address looks like 1008 2 North St.

I had a look on familysearch for SCHERA in Philadelphia on the 1900 census and could only see:
Joseph SCHERA (born Pennsylvania, parents born France) and wife Agnes (born Pennsylvania) 1142 Mercy St.
Rudolf SCHERA (born Illinois, parents born Germany) and wife Barbara (born Germany) 516 American Block E
SHERA - various born Italy or USA
CHERA - none

No obvious link to Rumania.

Philip
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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 June 18 16:55 BST (UK) »
As an update to the group, I had the wrong surname for Moritz.

His name should be MORITZ NATHAN, not what I typed before. Sorry for the confusion on my part!!!!!

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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 June 18 17:05 BST (UK) »
"I had a look on familysearch for SCHERA in Philadelphia on the 1900 census ...."

In the 1910 census, there were no Scheras in Philadelphia.  They all seem to have had their name changed to Cherry.  There were several from Russia but none living on North Street.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Nathan's in America
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 June 18 18:00 BST (UK) »
I keep coming back to this Morris Nathan in Chicago.  There are a lot of discrepancies but is there any way it can be the right family?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RN6-VQT?i=40&cc=1727033
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis