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Offline Lee Ross

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Sarah Challis/Challice
« on: Thursday 31 May 18 11:51 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help - I'm trying to piece together the life of my 4th great grandmother Sarah Challis/Challice before she emigrated to Australia on the 'Black Eagle' in 1857 with her husband John Casbolt and children William Casbolt and Sarah Ann Casbolt.

She seems to use several different names throughout her life:

Casbolt-Challes Marriage Certificate 1852 - minor, daughter of James Challes (brickmaker)

William Casbolt Birth Certificate 1853 - still to find possibly born in Westminster?
Sarah Casbolt Birth Certificate 1855 - Sarah Casbolt (formerly Taylor)
James Casbolt Birth Certificate 1857 - Sarah Taylor born abt. 1834 (23yo) Wimbish, Essex
John Casbolt Birth Certificate 1859 – Sarah Cashales born abt. 1835 (24yo) Wimbish, Essex
Thomas Casbolt Birth Certificate 1861 - Sarah Taylor born abt. 1834 (27yo) Wimbish, Essex
Mary Eliza Casbolt Birth Certificate 1864 - Sarah Chaliss born abt. 1836 (28yo) Essex
Alfred Casbolt Birth Certificate 1868 - Sarah Challas born abt. 1835 (33yo) Wimbish, Essex
Walter Casbolt Birth Certificate 1875 - Sarah Challice born abt. 1834 (41yo) Essex
Frederick Casbolt Birth Certificate 1877 - Sarah Challice born abt. 1834 (43yo) Essex

Sarah Casbolt Death Certificate 1905 – born abt. 1834 (71yo) Essex, England to ? Taylor (bricklayer) and Mrs Taylor (mn. Challis)

From what I've been able to find so far, there was an Ann Challice (pauper) that baptised her 'base born' daughter Sarah in 1836 at Helions Bumpstead, Essex. And there is an Ann Challis (daughter of John Challis) that marries a James Taylor (son of Allen Taylor) in 1838 at Wimbish. This may explain the naming confusion? Is anyone researching this family that could shed some more light for me?

I have found a Sarah Challis in the 1851 Census working as a house servant for Joseph Chaplin's family at 'Moat House' in Ridgewell that I think could be her but can't seem to find the family in the 1841 Census. If anyone could help me track them down, that would be very much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
Lee
- Ross (Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
- Clark (Bellie, Moray, Scotland)
- Parker (Bristol, England/West Indies)
- Appleyard (Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England)
- Wheatley (London, England)
- Gallagher (County Donegal, Ireland)
- Lambert (County Limerick, Ireland)
- Casbolt (Cambridgeshire, England)
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- McBride (County Armagh, Ireland)

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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 May 18 11:54 BST (UK) »
Please can you give full details from the 1852 marriage including date, place, abode, witnsses?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 May 18 12:03 BST (UK) »
Please can you give full details from the 1852 marriage including date, place, abode, witnsses?

8th August 1852
John Casbolt, of full age, bachelor, bricklayer, residing in Wimbish, father is John Casbolt (bricklayer)
Sarah Challes, minor, spinster, residing in Wimbish, father is James Challes (brick maker)
Witnesses: Thomas Carter & Anne Cornell
- Ross (Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
- Clark (Bellie, Moray, Scotland)
- Parker (Bristol, England/West Indies)
- Appleyard (Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England)
- Wheatley (London, England)
- Gallagher (County Donegal, Ireland)
- Lambert (County Limerick, Ireland)
- Casbolt (Cambridgeshire, England)
- Slavin (County Armagh, Ireland)
- McBride (County Armagh, Ireland)

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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 May 18 15:04 BST (UK) »
Hi the Sarah Challis aged 18 in Ridgewell 1851 census was born Helion Bumpstead, their is a family  headed by William/Louisa in that locality 1841 census, Census ref HO107/329/ 6/7 / 8
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 May 18 15:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Keyboard86,
Thanks for that, yeah you're right that Sarah Challis does seem to fit with the Sarah Challis in 1851 Ridgewell Census better, age is closer by a few years.
- Ross (Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
- Clark (Bellie, Moray, Scotland)
- Parker (Bristol, England/West Indies)
- Appleyard (Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England)
- Wheatley (London, England)
- Gallagher (County Donegal, Ireland)
- Lambert (County Limerick, Ireland)
- Casbolt (Cambridgeshire, England)
- Slavin (County Armagh, Ireland)
- McBride (County Armagh, Ireland)

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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 May 18 17:09 BST (UK) »
2 Baptisms for a Sarah in Helions Bumpstead
20 Apr 1834 to William/Lucy
27 Mar 1836, Mother Anne
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ANN Challice 09 Oct 1814 to JOHN/ELIZABETH, Father a Labourer
Her Parents may be Elizabeth TAYLOR/John CHALLICE who married 28 Oct 1800

Having said all of that I cant find James/Ann Taylor on 1841/1851 Census born c 1812/1814 ::)
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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 May 18 17:37 BST (UK) »
1851 Census has a Ann Taylor, Housekeeper, Mar, in Wimbish, transcribed as born c 1813 IL, Bumstead
(image is Helions Bumstead)
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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 June 18 07:45 BST (UK) »
Hi trish1120,

Thanks so much for looking those up for me, I hadn't found the Ann Taylor in Wimbish on the 1851 Census, that seems to fit!
Maybe James had died by then even though it says she's married not widowed
- Ross (Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
- Clark (Bellie, Moray, Scotland)
- Parker (Bristol, England/West Indies)
- Appleyard (Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England)
- Wheatley (London, England)
- Gallagher (County Donegal, Ireland)
- Lambert (County Limerick, Ireland)
- Casbolt (Cambridgeshire, England)
- Slavin (County Armagh, Ireland)
- McBride (County Armagh, Ireland)

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Re: Sarah Challis/Challice
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 June 18 08:40 BST (UK) »
Yes it is possible James had died by 1851 or they were just not together ant more.

I cant find any of them in 1841 Census, James/Ann/Sarah ::)
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