James Thomas Lee Wolverhampton

[mabeljessie]

Hi,
I am looking for anyone who can help me with a James Thomas LEE born abt 1830 Wolverhampton. The story goes that he emigrated to Australia, around 1852-4 with either his brother and a friend or with his family.

We can certainly see him in Victoria, Australia, where he starts a family with our ggg grandmother and creates a whole lot of Lee descendants in Australia. He becomes an engine driver, and so do several of his sons. But we can't find his shipping records or those of a brother or any other family members.

I can see a baptism of a James Lee on 25 May 1831 at Saint Peter Collegiate, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England with parents Edward Lee and Ann. His death certificate in Victoria Australia has his Parents listed as Edward Lee and Ann Bagley. I can also find an 1851 Census with a James Lee living as a lodger with a Greatrex family still in Wolverhampton while working as a pudler. This if it him,is possibly just the year or two before his travel.

I am just wondering if anyone else is related to this family and can help me.
Thanks in advance.

[rosie99]

There is a marriage in Wolverhampton of an Edward Lee and an Elizabeth Bagley - both widowed -on 3 December 1832. 

[trish1120]

Marriage?;
Edward LEY to Ann MADELEY 28 Dec 1826 same Church.

Baptism of James has his Fathers occp as a Presser

There is also this Family in 1851;
Edward Ley 48, occp Cover maker
Ann Ley   44
John Ley   33 (Brother)
JAMES Ley   19, Son, ******
Elena Ley   17
Edward Ley 14
Margaret Ley 13
Sarah Ley   11
William Ley 9
Ann Maria Ley 8
Rhoda Ley   3 mths
Emma Ley   2

1861 the Family is under LEES, James not there
Edward is now a Green Grocer.

GRO Index Birth Reg for Rhoda;
EE, RHODA, Mothers mn MADELEY****
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON  Volume 17  Page 332

Easy to confuse Madeley/Bagley on a Death Cert?.

Trish

[trish1120]

1841 Census
Wolverhampton
Edwd Las 38, occp Stamper**
Ann Las 30
John Lees 13
Mary Ann Lees 11
Johnes Lees 9***** (image is JAMES)
Ellen Lees   7
Edwd Lees   6
Margt Lees 4
Sarah Lees 2

ELLEN Lee 24 Nov 1833 to Edward/Ann, Father a Tinman
So on JAMES Lee Baptism 25 May 1831, Father Edward is a Presser must be to do with tin I presume.
Other Children to EDWARD./ANN
JOHN Lay  30 Nov 1827, Father a Locksmith
EDWARD Lee 6 Oct 1835, Father a Locksmith
MARGARET Lay    21 May 1837, Locksmith
SARAH Lay 20 May 1839, Father a Stamper*****

All Baptisms are on FreeREG.
I just looked for children on 1841 Census at this stage.

[trish1120]

See what you think mabeljessie but it looks good to me.

I'll be away for a few days in Capertee NSW so may not be able to reply to any questions for a while.

Someone else may be able to help though if you need it.

Trish (in Sydney)

[trish1120]

Last thing for now just found a Tree for your James and he names a Daug Rhoda

[rosie99]

Have a good time Trish 

Rosie

[mabeljessie]

Hi Trish and Rosie,
I have looked at both of these in the past but I am a little greedy
I was really hoping another family member doing research in the UK or Australia would have a few answers   With no shipping records at all, my latest is that he may have come across as crew and jumped ship.
I have spent years looking through ancestry, census, parish records and shipping records. The Lee's here have so many variations of how he got here it is like unravelling a tangled web. He didn't marry his wife, a very long winded story, so no records with details there.
Thanks for your help

[rosie99]

Any shipping record for him will be in Australia.  UK passenger lists don't start until the 1890's.