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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #90 on: Friday 22 June 18 22:50 BST (UK) »
I'm fOllowingthis with interest

Interesting that his 1st daughter also had middle name of Adamson

Thank you Lavinia, I had missed that.    I have been looking at the Garnham family with whom George also stayed for one census, but looks like no connection at all there.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #91 on: Friday 22 June 18 23:05 BST (UK) »
   There may be a connection to the Garnham family after all.      In 1841 the Adamson's were only about 4 doors away from a Shepherd Family in North Street, Hunmanby.    Thomas Garnham married Margaret Annie Shepherd.   Her Family Tree and that of Thomas Garnham is on Family Search.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #92 on: Friday 22 June 18 23:29 BST (UK) »
Jane and George's 1900 son Thomas William, my grandfather, actually had Thompson on his bc. I am puzzled by the name swapping.

My THEORY is that Jane and George had some sort of row. That would explain why George was away in 1911 and  was listed as deceased on Lavinia's 1915 marriage certificate, as well as Thomas William being a Thompson. But I have no evidence.

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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #93 on: Friday 22 June 18 23:53 BST (UK) »
We're getting a bit closer to sorting them all out, Martin.   For instance there was a Jane Colley (married) age 23 lodging with the Jenkinson's in Filey in 1851.   Remember Betsey Colley was the daughter of John and Jane Adamson.

However this find is I think more encouraging.    John Adamson appears as a Blacksmith in Filey from 1841 to 1871 and then can't find him in 1881- naturally since Jane is now a Widow.    In 1871 he was a Blind Blacksmith!!    Most census ages place his birth in 1801, e.g. 60 in 1861.   However 1871 has him as 68 which would be possibly 1802/3.

Now look at this -

Deaths Dec 1876
ADAMSON  John  76  Tynemouth  10b 105

 So born circa 1800.   Could this be the same John Adamson - living just across the Tyne from Jane Adamson?

Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields


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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #94 on: Saturday 23 June 18 00:00 BST (UK) »
Malcolm, bedtime here.  Perhaps sleep will allow me to get used to the idea of a blind blacksmith!  A nasty accident?

The parents of Tudhoe Anne Adamson were John and Martha Adamson...

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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #95 on: Saturday 23 June 18 08:50 BST (UK) »
Edmond Jenkinson that married Jane Harper and they had son John Adamson Jenkinson.
Jane Harper Jenkinson's Father was John Harper and her mother was Betsey Adamson, Betsey's father was John Adamson. John Harper's father was Robert Harper.
John and Betsey married Hunmandy in 1841.

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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #96 on: Saturday 23 June 18 08:54 BST (UK) »
Hunmanby..... soz....typo

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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #97 on: Saturday 23 June 18 21:22 BST (UK) »
Edmond Jenkinson that married Jane Harper and they had son John Adamson Jenkinson.
Jane Harper Jenkinson's Father was John Harper and her mother was Betsey Adamson, Betsey's father was John Adamson. John Harper's father was Robert Harper.
John and Betsey married Hunmanby in 1841.

Jane Harper could be Jane Adamson, daughter of John Adamson and his wife who was also Betsey.
Name   Jane Adamson
Gender   Female
Christening Date   09 Aug 1829
Christening Date (Original)   09 AUG 1829
Christening Place   HUNMANBY,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name   John Adamson
Mother's Name   Jane

But for there to be a Jane Adamson related to John Adamson Jenkinson we need a male son of the senior John Adamson and Jane, and here he is:

Name   John ... Adamson
Residence Place   Hull, York, England
Gender   Male
Christening Date   26 Jul 1819
Christening Date (Original)   26 Jul 1819
Christening Place   Kingston Upon Hull, York, England
Father's Name   John Adamson
Mother's Name   Jane

    As for the daughter Betsey, here she is:
Name   Betsey Adamson
Gender   Female
Christening Date   28 Sep 1822
Christening Date (Original)   28 SEP 1822
Christening Place   BRIDLINGTON,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name   John Adamson
Mother's Name   Jane

    I'm still puzzling over the Edmond Jenkinson who married a Nancy Jenkinson.    Wouldn't she be the Nancy who was daughter of Thomas Jenkinson in the 1851 census in Filey?

     There was an Edmond Jenkinson who was 12 year old nephew to Thomas and Betsey Shippy in Filey in 1851.

      Now he would have to be the 2 year old Edmond son of Edmond Jenkinson Fisherman in 1841 but Sea Captain of the Eliza Olive in the Gloster Canal in 1861.  The younger Edmond Jenkinson was with his brother John in Filey in 1861.

      Anway what can we find out about John Adamson born 1819.   Could he have gone to Durham and had a son Eward who might then have been father of the Jane Adamson we seek?

Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...
« Reply #98 on: Saturday 23 June 18 21:31 BST (UK) »
   We found that John Adamson Snr was a Blacksmith and a blind one to boot in his last years.   However he shows up as age 40 in 1841, whilst a John Harper that same year was a 28 year old Blacksmith - was he working for or with John Adamson?

   
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields