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Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« on: Thursday 07 June 18 04:21 BST (UK) »
I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction as I have struck problems researching my family member Helen Cessford.  She was born in  Rosewill, Lasswade, Midlothian, Scotland on  15 Jan 1876.  She next appears in Chile in 1898 and then in London in 1907.  Somewhere in this time frame she met Alfred Vinals and possibly married him,  I cannot find any shipping records for her or a marriage for her.  I am stuck.  I have information about her from 1907 onwards but am puzzled by the missing data for 1880-1907.  Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 June 18 05:12 BST (UK) »
She is easy enough to find with her family in Lasswade in 1881 and 1891.

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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 June 18 11:14 BST (UK) »
 :) Thanks Debra
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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 June 18 11:18 BST (UK) »
Perhaps if you can tell us what you know about her in 1898 & 1907.  That could help us in our search for more information
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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 June 18 11:42 BST (UK) »
What I am trying to find is a marriage record for Helen and Pedro Narciso Lorenzo Vinyals Furriol.  The record which would show her journey from Scotland to Chile and back to England.  In Chile in 1897 Helen and Pedro had a daughter, Isabella, a son Salvador born 1900, twin daughters, Victoria and Lily born 1901, then in London, England a daughter Evelyn born 1907, a son Richard born 1912, a daughter Frances born 1913.  I think Helen met Pedro in Scotland and perhaps emigrated to Chile either with or without him.  He owned a ship and traded Cork, so I am not sure if he actually emigrated.  He shows up on the birth records I have copies of in Chile as being the father but not much else.  I have been able to find records of the families emigration to America in 1914.  Thanks for your help.
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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 June 18 11:45 BST (UK) »
if They married it wouldn’t have been until after his divorce would it?

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“His conduct with a girl named Cessford was the talk of Loanhead........she learned that in 1886 he went to South America and she understood Cessford went with him”

Divorce was granted

24 July 1901 - Dundee Courier - Dundee, Angus, Scotland

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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 June 18 13:54 BST (UK) »
I am not sure if a marriage occured at all of if there was one out of Scotland in Chile.  Pedro seems to be very inventive around his relationships and somehow the children born of his first marriage eneded up living with Helen and him in London.  This is why I am hoping to track down some shipping records.  The parents names recorded on the birth certificate in Chile of Lily and Victoria were    Alfredo Vinals Ferrol and Margarita Cessford de Vinals .  The children from the first marriage lived with Pedro and Helen in England until they grew older, they thought their surname was Cessford.  I realise this makes it complicated, but if I could find some sort of records it may point me in the right direction.  I just don't know where to look.
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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 June 18 15:40 BST (UK) »
It was August 1896 when he left Loanhead with Nelly.
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Re: Marriage and shipping records, England, Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 June 18 08:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you Mckha and rosie, the gaps are starting to fill in now :)
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