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Information request on William Greene, originally from Fermanagh, an RIC Policeman, who spent much of his life in Clifden, Galway. He married Bridget Connolly from Feebaghduff, Scotstown, Co Monaghan and they had seven children. There’s a marriage record for a William Green and Bridget Connolly in St Mary’s, Fivemiletown, Co Tyrone on September 1, 1887. He’s a sergeant in the RIC living in Omagh at the time. His father Patrick is deceased. Bridget is a school teacher whose father, also named Patrick, is deceased as well. The marriage record gives the bride and groom’s place of residence at the time of marriage, not where they were born, and the entry for Bridget says Portaferry, County Down, William was listed as residing in Omagh.
One of their sons, Thomas Greene, came as a child to live near Tydavnet, Co Monaghan, with his aunt Ellen (Connolly) who was married to Thomas Loughran, originally from Meath, also a Policeman.
Family lore suggests that even though they did not speak Gaelic, that William’s son used to say that the Greene name came from something that sounded like “McHoutna”, sorry about the spelling, but that’s the way it sounded to young children growing up. William Greene ended his days in Dublin, he was buried in Glasnevin cemetery with his wife Bridget, son Michael Joseph and daughter Mary Bridget. Sorry, there is no more specific information, other than County Fermanagh – but leads on areas or townlands or any remaining relatives in the area would be appreciated, or anything else that may help in the search.

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Re: William Greene, RIC policeman, originallyfrom County Fermanagh, can anyone help?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 June 18 17:24 BST (UK) »
Well spotted! Yes that is him and his family of seven, some who were born in Leitrim. We can track him from then on, but there's no information on where he came from in Fermanagh, that's the bit being sought now. Here's their marriage record in 1881, witnesses were Margaret Mary KALLAGHAN??? and Thomas Nolan. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10812/5943233.pdf

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Re: William Greene, RIC policeman, originallyfrom County Fermanagh, can anyone help?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 June 18 17:33 BST (UK) »
I wonder if he could have converted in order to marry, worth keeping in mind.


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Re: William Greene, RIC policeman, originallyfrom County Fermanagh, can anyone help?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 June 18 17:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that suggestion - I had never thought of that. Mind you he went on to have a grandson a RC Priest. So far the family has been unable to go back any further than him in the family line, therefore they have no idea if he had siblings etc

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Re: William Greene, RIC policeman, originallyfrom County Fermanagh, can anyone help?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 June 18 19:25 BST (UK) »
Ideally you need his RIC record (I think, I've never seen one so don't know what they contain) Fairly sure Find My Past has RIC records.

For the moment have a look for any births in the early part of Civil Registration for any Patrick Greene father, farmer.
If any are found they may not be the correct Patrick as his children may have all been born before Civil Registration started. but it a way of picking areas to search, hopfully find that child's baptism in the church records of the area and than look earlier for a William.

Found one John in Lurgan mother Bridget Dolan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03596/2325784.pdf

Eliazbeth in Corlough 1864, mother Mary Trimble
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03604/2329371.pdf

Anne, not so easy to read
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03625/2338307.pdf

lots more to search.

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Re: William Greene, RIC policeman, originallyfrom County Fermanagh, can anyone help?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 June 18 22:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you for taking time to link these - I'm like you I am not familiar with searching the RIC records. A fair bit of work has gone into his history after his marriage, so appreciate these. Hoping that perhaps someone on the Fermanagh forum will suddenly recognise who the William Greene is, and where exactly he's from, just from the sketchy details available here. Thank you.

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Re: William Greene, RIC policeman, originallyfrom County Fermanagh, can anyone help?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 June 18 22:31 BST (UK) »
The Historical Library contains a collection of police related publications including monthly Garda Publication from 1922 to date. Departmental Records dealing with personnel, crime and administration matters. The DMP personnel register dating from 1836 to the 1970's. RIC and DMP related genealogical queries should be directed to Garda Jim Herlihy......

...who I think has retired!!!


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Re: William Greene, RIC policeman, originallyfrom County Fermanagh, can anyone help?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 June 18 22:59 BST (UK) »
Ah, thank you everyone, all these links are very helpful. Perhaps that's a good place to start, will have a "go" at that.