Help with Edmund File please

[Top-of-the-hill]

   Thanks Carole - I think this man is going to remain a bit of a mystery, at least as far as his origins!

[..claire..]

I think the familysearch entry may derive from this family

There is a possible marriage in Elmsted in 1771 of a John VILE and Elizabeth Down. This couple have children in Elmsted between 1774 - 1780.

The baptism for a daughter Elizabeth in 1774 has been transcribed as both File and Vile.

Between 1783 - 1788 Stowting a John & Elizabeth FILE baptise three daughters.

I think this is possibly all one family as I can't find a marriage for the Stowting couple or searching for a John File and Elizabeth marriage, but given the proximity of Elmsted and Stowting it seems likely. But I could be wrong.

Doesn't help find Edmund but if this is one family they can possibly be ruled out.

Claire

[ray b]

hello
you say his origins may remain a mystery one of my direct ancestors took me eight years
stick at it
rayb

[Top-of-the-hill]

   Thanks Claire - there are a lot of Files/Viles all round that area, but as you say, no Edmund. I wonder if he gave himself that name?!

[..claire..]

I've checked the Non Conformist registers too but can't see a likely candidate in those either.

I've looked at what children the Vile/File couple had (marriages) - just to see if Edmund pops up as a witness, but nothing.

He may have been illegitimate and his mother married Mr File after his birth and he took the name at a later date.

Claire

[pjm99]

Hi,
There is this baptism:
Name:    Edmund Philllis
Gender:    Male
Baptism Date:    8 Dec 1786
Baptism Place:    St. Martin, Guston, Kent, England
Father:    John Philllis
Mother:    Elizabeth
Guston is only about 13m from Elmsted so it may be worth investigating.

Peter

[bearkat]

He may have been illegitimate and his mother married Mr File after his birth and he took the name at a later date.

Claire

Elmsted records have been transcribed

http://www.hastingleigh.com/Elmsted/Elmsted-Baptisms-1752-1800.html

It's good to see all the baptisms together.  There are no baptisms for an Edmund between 1752 and 1800.

John & Elizabeth VILE's last child was baptised in 1778.

Have you looked at wills or MIs?

[..claire..]

Edmund Phillis - what a good find 

I think he married in Hougham in 1813 and was buried there in 1815.

Ages fit the records, and I can only see one Edmund Phillis in the records.

Claire

[bearkat]

Could be - different parish, different vicar, different variant.