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Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« on: Thursday 07 June 18 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hello Aussie experts :)

I just recently found a reference on FindaGrave for a cousin of my dad's, Elsie Covington Hall.  She was born in 1900 in Worcestershire, daughter of John (*see below) and Agnes, and died in Lithgow, N.S.W in 1951 unmarried.  Her death notice, found on Trove, states that she emigrated to Australia as a child, and was survived by her sisters Mrs.  E.R. Ison of Delemgra (Maggie), and Mrs. G.A. Atkins (Alice) of Malvern Street (as well as a brother in Kent, U.K.).
Pall bearers included nephews with surnames Wootten, Stedman and Atkins, all nephews of Elsie.

Alice was born in 1890 and married George Atkins in Kings Norton, Worcestershire, in 1911.  I found one son Arthur b. 1913. who later married in Lithgow.
Maggie was born in 1894 and married John Thomas Long in Nuneaton in 1913.  Found one daughter Maggie junior b. 1916.  He died in 1928.  I can't find a married Long - Ison either in England or N.S.W.

There were two other sisters, Mary (1886) and Lucy (1892) who I haven't found in Australia, though they could feasibly be the wives of Mr. Wootten and Mr. Stedman, and both deceased by 1951.

The two sisters Maggie and Alice are both in England as late as 1913/16.  Their mother died in 1924.  So is it likely that whoever provided the information to the newspaper simply made a mistake about Elsie emigrating as a child?  Or did she travel with someone else?

And as a side note, can anyone find evidence of Mr. E. R. Ison, please?

* As another side note, Elsie's 'father' died in 1898 so unless her mother had the longest pregnancy on record, John Hall was not her father.  The family lived in Coventry for many years, where Covington is a fairly recurrent surname.  I reckon this is a clue ;)

Sorry about the essay and thanks in advance for any help with finding the passages of these sisters.

Bev.
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 June 18 23:34 BST (UK) »
UK marriage Mar 1915   

BAYLISS William H
Maggie  HALL 
Kings N.  6d 121 

Australian Marriage

Robert Edgar ISON
Margaret BAYLISS
Date   1941
Wingham, New South Wales
Year   1941
Registration 9470
 
 Sue
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Re: Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 June 18 00:01 BST (UK) »
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 June 18 00:14 BST (UK) »
Looks like Elsie went to Australia with her mother

26 Jan 1922
depart London England for Sydney Australia on board the Ballarat
Mrs Agnes Caroline Hall Housewife age 68 211 Grange Road Kings heath Birmingham
Miss Elsie Hall age 21 occ Packer of same address
Intended country of residence Australia

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 June 18 01:05 BST (UK) »
NSW death: 1986 #105119 Robert Edgar ISON; Father-William

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Re: Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 June 18 01:07 BST (UK) »
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18218776
WEBB, Lucy.—June 24, 1951, at her residence, 43 Ashburner street, Manly, beloved sister and sister-in-law of George and Alice Atkins, of Lithgow, Margaret and Edgar Ison, of Inverell, Elsie and Lillie Hall, and Ernest Wootten, of Abbotsford, aged 58 years.

NSW death: 1951 #8583 Lucy WEBB; Father-John; Mother-Agnes Caroline; Manly

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Re: Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 June 18 02:21 BST (UK) »
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/185386238
DELUNGRA DOINGS
Personal -Holiday Trips -
Military Corps
PERSONAL.
The engagement Is announced of Margaret Jessie, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Stan O'Grady, Burnett Street. Delungra, to Denis Edward, only son of the late W. A. Bayliss. of Birmingham, England, and Mrs. Edgar Ison, Inverell.

Also here: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/215103728

NSW marriage: 25158/1939 Denis Edward Kitchener BAYLISS and Margaret O’GRADY; Inverell

http://naa.gov.au (can request a copy for a fee)
BAYLISS DENIS EDWARD KITCHENER : Service Number - NX41269 : Date of birth - 14 May 1918 : Place of birth - BIRMINGHAM ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - TAMWORTH NSW : Next of Kin - BAYLISS MARGARET

Taabinga Cemetery Qld
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/183319047/denis-edward-bayliss
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/183319086/margaret-jessie-bayliss

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Re: Who did Elsie got to Australia with?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 June 18 07:30 BST (UK) »
Lithgow Mercury 20Dec1946 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/219612267
ENGAGEMENT
ATKINS—ROULAND— The. Engagement is announced of Mollie Jean, youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. H. L. Rouland, 11A Main Street West to Robert George, youngest son of Mr. and Mrs G. A. Atkins 13 Malvern Street, Lithgow.

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 June 18 07:55 BST (UK) »
Lithgow Mercury 23Dec1941 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/221881153
LITHGOW WEDDING.
ATKINS—LEMON.
A pretty wedding was celebrated at St. Paul's Church of England, Lithgow, on December 13, when Joyce, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. W. Lemon, of Litligow-strect, was married to Arthur, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. G. Atkins, of Malvern-street....