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2 marriage records - same person signing?
« on: Friday 08 June 18 18:14 BST (UK) »
The 2 records attached show signatures for a William Smith, bearing in m ind that they are 24 years apart could they be the same person?

Must admit I am not at all convinced that they are.

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Re: 2 marriage records - same person signing?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 June 18 19:42 BST (UK) »
No, I don't think it is the same hand.
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Re: 2 marriage records - same person signing?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 June 18 19:52 BST (UK) »
I agree with PaulineJ not signed by the same person.

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Re: 2 marriage records - same person signing?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 June 18 20:11 BST (UK) »
In the second image (the earlier date) I wondered if both names were written by the same person as they are very similar in style.  Also the Livingstone in the witness is virtually identical to the Livingstone in the spouse.


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Re: 2 marriage records - same person signing?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 June 18 20:22 BST (UK) »
The William names are slightly different -- but the Smith name looks very similar in both.

I do agree with shanghaipanda that the groom and spouse names in the Livingstone marriage look to have been written by the same person. Even the pressure on the writing of both is the same.

(Not sure if this helps or hinders in a decision!)
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Re: 2 marriage records - same person signing?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 June 18 20:56 BST (UK) »
There are distinctive unusual square corners by William in his S's

Looks to be by the same hand to me
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 June 18 23:05 BST (UK) »
I would say they were written by the same person....the "th" is formed in the same way in both surnames with the cross of the t looping to form the downward stroke of the h.
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Re: 2 marriage records - same person signing?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 June 18 00:41 BST (UK) »
Looking at 'Smith' I would favour the same hand; looking at 'William' I would say probably a different hand.

So I'm afraid I'm not helping much as I'm sitting firmly on the fence.  ;D :-\ :(
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Re: 2 marriage records - same person signing?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 June 18 02:49 BST (UK) »
Looking at 'Smith' I would favour the same hand; looking at I would say probably a different hand.

So I'm afraid I'm not helping much as I'm sitting firmly on the fence.  ;D :-\ :(

'William'  - Similar in character

With the timing being 24 hours apart - highly likely the same (Smith) William - but macwil  makes fair comment in judgment of words William in the signatures.
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