Jessie

[willsy]

Yes, looks like John Richards Islington

[avm228]

FreeBMD has it as Jennet Richards, Jun qtr 1862 Neath 11a 568.

[avm228]

FreeBMD’s image is much better quality - John Richards in Dolgelly 11b 707 followed by Jennet Richards in Neath.

[Tomster]

- About 1889 John Manley and Jessie(or Jeanette as she went by sometimes) possibly meet in Tunbridge Wells (John had left his wife Lavinia with 6 children) or Leeds?
- 1890 - (July Herbert Manley born in Leeds to John and Jessie.
- 1891 - (Feb Herbert Baptized
- 1891 - UK Census, Jessie says she is born in 1867 in Sydenham, Surrey, England. She also indicates she is John Manley’s wife.
- 1892 - (Jan 1) Doris is born in Leeds to John and Jessie.
- 1893 - February 25th, John & Jessie, Herbert and Doris emigrate to Canada under the surname “Bennett” and settle in Toronto.
Jessie is about 5 months pregnant with Edgar (Timothy) who is born June 9th in Toronto.
- 1901 - Canadian Census, indicates Jessie’s birthdate to be November 9, 1866.
- 1902 or about 1903 John Manley leaves Jessie and family - he just disappears, eventually moving back to England where he dies in 1908.
- 1904 June 25, Jessie marries George Fisher in York/Toronto, Ontario, Canada. She indicates her birth year is 1872 on the marriage certificate

I'm very new to Roots Chat and don't always get it right. Hopefully this post will help out. Many thanks to those that are helping.

[brigidmac]

Which DNA tests did you do .?

...have you looked at distant matches from particular areas as well as connections through surnames you know ?
..maybe you could find relatives of Jessie's sisters or her maternal line .


I have a distant relatives who changed name to Bennett in 2nd world war apparently chose that name because of a street he.d lived on .

[Tomster]

I used the standard Autosomal-DNA test available through Ancestry.com. That test revealed that I was related to the Manley which solve the G Grandfather questions. I also transferred the raw results to FamilyTree DNA, but I haven't got results that would to Jessie. The problem is that we don't know Jessies correct surname so can't identify current generations through her sisters (if there are any).

Many thanks, Tom

[brigidmac]

When I used the ancestry match system I looked at matches that did not have mutual ancestors with the ones I knew .looked at who was mutual matches of matches and then used the match by region option .

Maybe if you have some matches that have links to Islington or Sydenham which do not match the Manley links that could give you possible surnames for Jessie .....It  may only work for 3rd cousin or closer matches ..

 I found my great grandmothers ...grandson   that way  though we didn't know her married name  .she.did actually married with him a different first name and different  spelling of surname ... her son had changed his surname  (to Benett)   a and his son didn't know  anything about his grandmother.

there is merit in pursuing matches even if you can't find  how they link on tree.

Hope this makes sense .

[Tomster]

I will certainly give it a try.

Many thanks, Tom

[Tomster]

I should note, if I already haven't someplace in the posts, that Herbert was baptized at St.Aidans on Roundhay Road, Leeds, Yorkshire, which was only a 5 minute walk from where they lived on 4 Lambton St.