Another 2 marriage records - same groom?

[Edward Scott]

Following on from http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m6k/, the 2 attached marriage records are 9 years apart.

Is it the same groom signing?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts

Edward

[Edward Scott]

Another signature here for Thomas which I know definitely belongs to the 1828 marriage.

Edward

[BumbleB]

Not sure why you're querying the 1857 signature.  Can't possibly be the groom at age 23, so must be the father 

[Edward Scott]

Possible first marriage in 1819, definite marriage in 1828 and Thomas, eldest son of the 1828 marriage, was married in 1857 with his father as a witness

I am trying to understand if the 1819 / 1828 TS marriages are the same person.

The 1857 signature is another later example, he signed as TS Snr

Edward

[Edward Scott]

I am still uncertain about these signatures, I know that those in 1828 & 1857 are the same person and feel that 1819 is as well. However I would really appreciate others thoughts

thanks

Edward

[Mart 'n' Al]

Remember that sometimes documents seem to be signed by the registrar, especially if one or more people are unable to sign their own signature. I have several pairs like this in my research.

Martin

[Edward Scott]

I agree, but these all appear to be in a different hand from the rest of the marriage records

Edward

[dobfarm]

I am still uncertain about these signatures, I know that those in 1828 & 1857 are the same person and feel that 1819 is as well. However I would really appreciate others thoughts

thanks

Edward

The writer in all 3 images is very precise with his dot exactly over the letter 'I' in Smith and always a twiddle above the horizontal line crossing the T as said in all 3 images.

The T in Thomas on the 1819 and 1857, though 38 years time difference, the J part of the T slopes (leans slightly forward) at a similar angle, length of the J and the horizontal line of the T ( Like a letter L on its side from the J to make the T) have similar style and at a guess the same writer.

The mas in Thomas seems to bend up slightly in comparison of the 1819 and 1828 Thomas's.
 - Tho /       (/ = mas)

Also the M in Smith also goes up on a slight angle 1819 and 1828 Smith's-infact both Smith words seem to have a slight upward bow in them, or if written on a slight curved line.

That exact dot over letter ' I ' and  'm' suggest same writer.

[Edward Scott]

dobfarm, many thanks for your thoughts. If they are all the same person then it raises a serious doubt about the correctness of two non-conformance baptisms (30.06.1837) as they would then show the wrong mother (shows mother as wife from marriage 1 but children were from marriage 2).

Time for further digging.

Edward