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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 20:19 BST (UK) »
Interesting one of the witnesses Robert Annan wonder if their is a connection ..On the 1881 Census Scotlands People John's surname is down as Annan also  in 1891 Carluke

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 00:29 BST (UK) »
Great observation Rosie!

I wonder if someone may have had a speech impediment which made Allan sound like Annan  ???

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 16:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you Rosie- found a copy of the death certificate with the dod listed as 1904. Unfortunately the parents are just listed as deceased, no names.

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 18:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Graeme ...That's a pity so no further advanced then in finding any information on them

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 19:47 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this is any help as names don't seem a good match?

Children of John Allan & Catherine Low 18/01/1819 Canongate (Midlothian)

All b Prestonpans (East Lothian)

Mary 05/11/1819 - 718/60 176
Alison 10/02/1822 - 718/80 24
Anne 02/03/1823 718/80 34
James 23/10/1825 - 718/ 80 53

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 June 18 10:11 BST (UK) »
Hi I followed up on Catherine Low, but it does not seem to fit. The Allans seemed to always name their first born sons John. Found two John Allans, boy of the right ages, who do not appear to be with their family on the night of the 1841 census. Working on the premise that John was staying with relatives or friends that night.

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 17 June 18 10:37 BST (UK) »
I have checked Parish Records available from Scotlands People, British Newpaper Archives and Family Search but I can find no trace of the parent's marriage or their births.
See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 17 June 18 11:51 BST (UK) »
Think you will find it quite hard trying to find him on any earlier census records as you said he was most probably working on a farm ..There are a few John Annan's and Allans you could maybe check

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Re: Finding John Allan, Lanarkshire (1790-1857???)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 17 June 18 12:42 BST (UK) »
His parents are both shown with the name of Allan on the marriage certificate. John(snr) is listed as a deceased "Farm Servant." (His bride,Mary Frase,  mother's maiden name is shown, so maybe Catherine was born an Allan.)

If no m/s is shown, this points to them never having married not to mention the fact 'John' may even be a fictitious name?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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