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Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« on: Monday 11 June 18 12:45 BST (UK) »
Owen Scahill was born 6th June 1884 at Carrandulla Galway. Parents Owen and Mary nee Hession. I can see his death in 1959 recorded at Orange NSW. Can others see any other information about Owen please. The only marriage I can see is for a Thomas Owen Scahill  in  1943 but as he had a brother Thomas Joseph here in NZ seems an unlikely due to name and date.

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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 June 18 17:41 BST (UK) »
Thomas Owen Scahill seems to be a much younger man (son of a Frank).

Any idea when Owen might have come to Australia?
I don't see a WWI record for him in Australia or anything in the newspapers at Trove.
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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 June 18 20:01 BST (UK) »
An Owen Scahill came out to Wellington NZ in 1909 so assuming it is him some time after that.. No marriage or death here so he must have left for ?? Australia ??


Just read my mail and my relatives had always thought it was brother Patrick, born 3 Feb 1881, who had gone to Australia.

Slight oppps Owen is at Motueka Tasman in 1911 and 1914

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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 03:17 BST (UK) »
There is a Patrick Scahill born 3/2/ 1881 Ireland who enlisted NZ WW1( image online at NZ Archives) and was KIA in France. NOK given as Edward Scahill(brother)
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HUME: Fermanagh, Donegal,Sligo,Australia
PASFIELD: Essex, London
SHAW/STANLEY: Co Waterford,Ireland

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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Stefanie. Oh heck was about to say brother Edward ruled him out but that birth date niggled. Have now found out what happened to Patrick and a new Brother that no one knew about. Of course there is always the possibility of two Patricks born on the same day but.... Thank you ;D

OK looking like Edward was in fact a cousin. Had assumed the other two Scahills from that part of Galway were Owen and Patricks Uncles. Look even more likely now. Did a search of
just "Edwards"  at Irelands BDM

Silly me. Went to write to a Scahill third cousin, then went back to get Edwards birth date. Realised I had only checked the first 100 Edwards.  Voila Edmund Schahill  born 9/4/1872 to the correct parents. Seemed strange to list a cousin when he had a brother Thomas Joseph also living in the Dunedin area. Edmund was the older and hence the one to list

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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 08:35 BST (UK) »
From my experience, when soldiers enlisted, the person taking down the details often made errors as there were unfortunately so many men to process.
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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 09:23 BST (UK) »
I see  a record on one of my offline resources for a burial at Orange Cemetery.

SCHAELL, Owen. (This is the spelling I see)
ID 850
Religion Roman Catholic
Area, old
Section H
Number 83

The grave is unmarked, meaning there is not a headstone or inscription.

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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 10:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue. Pity about the lack of headstone. Implies no family. Funny that he enrolled in NZ to vote but not in Australia. Our National Library could come up with nothing except his arrival and electoral enrolment and hits for his nephew. To simply disappear from records for 45 years in the 20th century takes some doing.

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Re: Owen Scahill Death recorded at Orange NSW
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 11:01 BST (UK) »
Nothing to do with Owen but the "Will" of Patrick Scahill is his last letter home to Ned. So it is Edward that he recorded as his next of kin. In looking at him the other day b4 discounting him there is a nice picture of him at NZ's WW1 site

Just read his war record and Edward and Edmund are the same person. Medals went to Edmund and on one of the sheets Edmund of the same address has been written in in Red writing.