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John HOBBS marriages. Any advice or help appreciated
« on: Tuesday 12 June 18 01:23 BST (UK) »
I am having problems figuring this out
John Hobbs was born 1810 in Abingdon Berkshire
When he became a adult he became a baker and remained that his life
All but one of his children were born in Sussex.

His first marriage:
John Hobbs m 30 May 1833 Jane Gibbins Great Faringdom, Berkshire

John and Jane had 5 children from 1834 to 1841

In 1841 Jane passes away (Jun qtr 1841 Horsham RD Vol 7 p 253)


In 1843 he has the first child with Mary Ann Worsfold born Woking Surrey circa 1814 (death unknown but past 1861)
They had 7 children and I know the last name for Mary Ann is right as I have a birth cert for one of her children and it gives her last name. John Hobbs is shown as a baker.
The second family is confirmed on the census but I cannot find a marriage anywhere nor does it appear any other family tree I have looked at.  On the 1861 census she is shown as living in Brighton Sussex  married Head and a needlewomen with the correct children.  John is nowhere to be seen.

RG9/600/25 p 44  Brighton Sussex
Mary Ann Hobbs Head 47 Mar Needlewoman b Woking, Surrey
Traton Hobbs   
Antoniett Hobbs   
Warden J Hobbs   
Rueben Jas Hobbs   
Julia Hobbs

Then a marriage  shows up for a third wife for John

I  find a John Hobbs Baker correct age born in in Abbingdon  living in Ifeld Sussex profession baker

Charlotte Greasley m 12 Oct 1859 John Hobbs (Widower)  Baker at St Mary, Battersea Wandsworth
Her father was Robert Burgess

On the 1861 census they are living together as married and one son from her first marriage and his profession is baker born Abingdon.

1.  I am looking for a marriage to Mary Ann or derivatives somewhere after 1841
    or could they never have married.  I have contacted a few records offices with no luck

2.  What does anyone make of the third marriage when in 1861 his second wife was still alive and
     he puts widower if its the same John Hobbs.
     Did John desert his family and then fib about his marital status.

Any help appreciated

Best wishes from Canada


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Re: John HOBBS marriages. Any advice or help appreciated
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 02:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim,

My first assumption would be that he and Ann/Mary Ann Worsfold never married, but lived as husband and wife and registered their children as Hobbs.

Jo  :)
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Re: John HOBBS marriages. Any advice or help appreciated
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 02:53 BST (UK) »
I also noticed 1841 he is at Crawley St  and in 1861 he is back in Crawley St with Charlotte???

Suz
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Re: John HOBBS marriages. Any advice or help appreciated
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 20:47 BST (UK) »
I agree on the likely not marrying but it did not stop them from going down to the local church and having their children baptized.   
   Trayton Edward Hobbs
Gender   Male
Baptism Date   02 Nov 1845
Baptism Place   St. Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England
Father   John Hobbs
Mother   Mary Ann
FHL Film Number   1468823
Household Members   
Name   Age
Mary Ann   
John Hobbs   
Trayton Edward Hobbs
I had a very similar circumstance with another ancestor in Canada.  He left (deserted) his family and not five years later he was married again, and put he was a widower on the marriage cert.