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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 11:17 BST (UK) »
Mothers maiden name is available on the GRO index, you just need to register
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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 11:19 BST (UK) »
Mothers maiden name is available on the GRO index, you just need to register
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Thank you I had no idea about this I just use the index

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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 11:25 BST (UK) »
It also has ages at death for those early ones not available on freebmd
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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 12:28 BST (UK) »
So just to throw something else in the mix, the death record for Mary Louisa Smithwick (nee Betts, nee Lucking) has her death in Brunswick, Victoria 1944 with the identical entry as Mary Louisa Gunston .Elec rolls have her in 1931 living with Wm Gunston as Mary Louisa Gunston.
Trove nla has death notice" 19/5/1941 for Maude TONG age 58 dau of Louisa Gunston and stepdau of Wm Gunston and loving sister of Thomas BOIK.
Can't find deaths for the first 2 husbands.
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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 13:13 BST (UK) »
Re Thomas Boik -

From NSW Police Gazette 1889 :

Sydney : Warrant has been issued by the Central Police Bench for the arrest of Thomas Henry Boik, charged that he , by his violent conduct caused , Louisa Lucking to be apprehensive of violence to her person. He is 30 years of age , 5ft 9ins and of stout build.

There is a Thomas Boik , born about 1854 , died 1898 Victoria , reg. 11464. There is an Inquest file on this man, who died in the Asylum. https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24H-Y6QK.
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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 13:53 BST (UK) »
The birth registration for an Alfred James Lucking in 1883 (England) does not have mmn Betts  :-\

LUCKING, ALFRED  JAMES     mothers maiden name PUMFRETT     
GRO Reference 1883  December Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 134

ADDED I can't see any other Lucking / Betts births in England after Maude

Hey
So you are correct this is the wrong person - but I do know there is a James (Jim) as a son but it is weird he changed his last name from Lucking to Williamson.

Here is the link to the newspaper I found the info in. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/203711346?searchTerm=Williamson%20(Lucking)%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&searchLimits=

If that doesn't work if you type in Williams on(Lucking) into Trove it will come up.

I have no idea where the Williamson comes from or why he changed it

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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 14:16 BST (UK) »

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So you are correct this is the wrong person - but I do know there is a James (Jim) as a son but it is weird he changed his last name from Lucking to Williamson.

Here is the link to the newspaper I found the info in. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/203711346?searchTerm=Williamson%20(Lucking)%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&searchLimits=

If that doesn't work if you type in Williams on(Lucking) into Trove it will come up.

I have no idea where the Williamson comes from or why he changed it

Death for the above is registered as James Williamson b 1885 died South Melbourne 1919;
Reg. Victoria 8318
Parents : James Williamson and Mary Louisa Betts.
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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 14:17 BST (UK) »
Re Thomas Boik -

From NSW Police Gazette 1889 :

Sydney : Warrant has been issued by the Central Police Bench for the arrest of Thomas Henry Boik, charged that he , by his violent conduct caused , Louisa Lucking to be apprehensive of violence to her person. He is 30 years of age , 5ft 9ins and of stout build.

There is a Thomas Boik , born about 1854 , died 1898 Victoria , reg. 11464. There is an Inquest file on this man, who died in the Asylum. https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24H-Y6QK.

Hi Christine,
Thank you for the info.

With the police gazette, I am a bit confused as this Thomas Henry Boik would have to be born in around 1859 at the time of this and Thomas Henry Boik Lucking was already dead in 1950. It could possibly be a child but I haven't been able to piece it together yet.

I can not work out the asylum one either again it could of been a grandchild or some other relation maybe.  ???

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Re: Where did Frederick John Lucking die?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 14:34 BST (UK) »
Thomas ( Henry ) Boik born about 1859 was arrested in 1890 for threatening Louisa Lucking.

Thomas Boik born about 1854 died in the Asylum in 1898.

I suggest these two records refer to the same man.

Thomas Henry Boik who died in 1950 was born about 1888. Parents given in the death registration are Henry Thomas Boik and Mary Louisa Betts. This suggests to me that Thomas born 1854/59, who died in 1898, was the father of Thomas Henry Boik born 1888 and died 1950.

Hope that makes sense  ?  ;D
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