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Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« on: Tuesday 12 June 18 15:55 BST (UK) »
My relative lived at this address in 1911.  Would anyone know if it still stands please & where it is?  I have contacted Palé Hall & although it used to be part of the estate I was informed that most of the staff houses were sold off some time ago. 
Thanks in advance

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 18:54 BST (UK) »
I checked "Related Images - List" on FindMyPast for properties listed before and after "Pale Garden House" (cannot post details - policy).

Some of those mentioned can be seen on this 1901 map
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102184546

Can you access this "List"? Not sure how it's delivered via Ancestry.
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 19:40 BST (UK) »
COFLEIN

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/265169/details/pale-garden-llandderfel

Click on "Return to site results" for further mapping
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 19:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for your help

I do appreciate it

You are very helpful

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 June 18 20:01 BST (UK) »
This is an 1875 (circa) photo of the walled garden.
https://www.palehall.co.uk/kitchen-garden-restoration-1/

In the 1901 Census "Pale Garden House" is listed immediately after "Pale Hall" and is occupied by Thomas Ruddy, head gardener (domestic).

Your 1911 "rellie" at Pale Garden House has a very similar title. 
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 13:02 BST (UK) »
Edward John Edwards - thats right - I wondered if he was gardener to the Hall

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 17:41 BST (UK) »
He occupied the property in 1911 previously occupied in 1901 by "Ruddy, Head Gardener (domestic)". I suspect he was head gardener in place of Ruddy (can't spot Ruddy in Llandderfel in 1911).

Welsh newspapers online   http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3847056/3847063/91/

see column1

Y Beirniaid (The Judges)

Yr Adran Arddwriaethol  (Horticultural Section) - Mr Mossop, Llangollen; a (and) Mr E J Edwards, Pale Hall

 
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 18:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that.  I have just googled Thomas Ruddy & found his biography & a photo of the house!  Fab

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Re: Palé Garden House, Llandderfel, near Corwen
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 18:32 BST (UK) »
Found the site - great photo of the Garden House.

Have found several mentions of EJE in Welshnewspapers online - usually in a judging capacity.
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.