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Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« on: Wednesday 13 June 18 03:51 BST (UK) »
Hi

I need some help to deciphering the middle name of the father on the attached birth certificate.
It looks as if it is underlined, which is odd, the other 'y' & 'g' endings on the document do not trail backwards to underline so its not that I don't think.

But any ideas would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Horwood - London
Farrants - Suffolk
Wild - London, Wales
Mitsons  Suffolk
Pullar - Scotland
Valentine - Scotland
Fairfoul - Scotland

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 04:08 BST (UK) »
It may be an idea to type all what you have to help others to work it out?

Name/date/place etc. as it's not too easy to read & saves time  ;)

Looks like Agoussy or similar but very difficult to work out?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 04:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the tip!

15th October 1844 at 9 Lower Boston Place - Elizabeth - daughter of Edward (?) Horwood - mother - Sophia Horwood formerly Granger - Labourer.

Horwood - London
Farrants - Suffolk
Wild - London, Wales
Mitsons  Suffolk
Pullar - Scotland
Valentine - Scotland
Fairfoul - Scotland

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 04:37 BST (UK) »
I wondered if the middle name ended in croft??   :-\

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 04:58 BST (UK) »
I wondered if the middle name ended in croft??   :-\

Kay

Could be a long s ... so maybe ending in ass, oss or ess?  :-\ After the word looks like a number 9.  :-\

You can always order one of the other children's birth certificates in the hope that whatever the word is is also on their certificates.

Having a quick look at his marriage and a couple of censuses, there is no middle name given for Edward ...

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 05:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your thoughts Kay99 & Ruskie.

The 'f' in Fifteenth looks like the 3rd letter from the end but I also though the old fashioned double ss was possible.

Horwood - London
Farrants - Suffolk
Wild - London, Wales
Mitsons  Suffolk
Pullar - Scotland
Valentine - Scotland
Fairfoul - Scotland

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 05:17 BST (UK) »
After the word looks like a number 9.  :-\

Ruskie,

I pondered over that & wondered why the name was underlined, not something I've seen (not to say it isn't) but then my guess was ending in either 'y' or 'g' i.e. a long under stroke (not sure what that would be called) but rather than underlined  :-\

Edit, favouring a 'y' if last 2 letters are 'ss'!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 05:22 BST (UK) »
I don't know Annie.  :-\

If the word ends in an s, I can't think of any name that would end in an ..'sg'. Y - maybe?

The underline (if it is an underline) is odd ....

I wonder if asking the GRO for a clearer copy is possible (as it is for illegible Scottish records from SP)? At the very least they may be able to tell you what is on the original?  :-\

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 05:26 BST (UK) »
I looked at my own docs. (ones with a middle name) & none are underlined although different Parishes etc.  :-\

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"