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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 05:27 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ruskie on Wednesday 13 June 18 05:22 BST (UK)
I wonder if asking the GRO for a clearer copy is possible (as it is for illegible Scottish records from SP)? At the very least they may be able to tell you what is on the original?  :-\

Good idea!

Annie
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 05:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for your thoughts.

Its very frustrating as his middle name may give a clue as to his grandparents as I have a brick wall there on both sides.

I think I shall have to get another birth certificate.  I will ask about a better copy as well.

The underlining is very odd.  The other 'y's and 'g's dont have a backline, though he does use a forward line on his 'd's.
Horwood - London
Farrants - Suffolk
Wild - London, Wales
Mitsons  Suffolk
Pullar - Scotland
Valentine - Scotland
Fairfoul - Scotland

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:00 BST (UK) »
After more scrutiny  ::)...

The 'y' in Formerly has no comparison i.e. I would file my suggestion of the last letter/number under 'B' for Bucket!  ;D

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:03 BST (UK) »
Quote from: jillieh on Wednesday 13 June 18 05:33 BST (UK)
I think I shall have to get another birth certificate.

And hope his middle name is in full & not just an initial!!!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:10 BST (UK) »
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And hope his middle name is in full & not just an initial!!!

Even an initial would help with this!
Horwood - London
Farrants - Suffolk
Wild - London, Wales
Mitsons  Suffolk
Pullar - Scotland
Valentine - Scotland
Fairfoul - Scotland

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:16 BST (UK) »
To me, it looks like 'AGNESS' followed by a '9'.

A quick search on RC brings up a number of threads involving the surname AGNESS in Essex and Suffolk.  Does Edward have any links to that area?

The '9' would probably relate to the registrar's note in the right-hand margin, indicating an alteration or addition to the register entry (hence the underlining?).  Sadly I can't interpret that note.

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:19 BST (UK) »
I compared the 'O' in October to the Inital of the middle name which looks to be 'A' & the 2nd letter is akin to the 'g' in Granger ?

Annie

Add...Crossing posts Carol but that looks a good call!
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks CarolA3 - that is very interesting.

I had thought Agness as well but thought it cant be, its a man! I didnt think of it being a surname! And the last digit confused me as well.  But if its a reference to the registrars note it makes a lot more sense!

I really don't know where they came from before London.

Horwood - London
Farrants - Suffolk
Wild - London, Wales
Mitsons  Suffolk
Pullar - Scotland
Valentine - Scotland
Fairfoul - Scotland

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Re: Fathers middle name on Birth Cert - help needed
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 06:52 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ruskie on Wednesday 13 June 18 04:58 BST (UK)

Could be a long s ... so maybe ending in ass, oss or ess?  :-\ After the word looks like a number 9.  :-\

You can always order one of the other children's birth certificates in the hope that whatever the word is is also on their certificates.

Having a quick look at his marriage and a couple of censuses, there is no middle name given for Edward ...

I agree that it looks like a 9 - there are a few in the image to compare with, plus there's a space after the word. There's no middle name used in his marriage or baptism records either. To me it looks like Agness 9, maybe a miswritten address?

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