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Re: Looking for ID of Cross Please
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 14 June 18 17:08 BST (UK) »
A last thought perhaps (as we haven't identified the cross yet!).  What caught my eye in the first link I posted was It has been traditional for many years for hospital training schools to issue hospital badges to qualified nurses. Many of these badges have their origins in military, chivalric and religious orders. The Victorians had a great love of medals and decorations. It was in the 1860s that some hospitals introduced prizes in the form of medals & badges to encourage higher standards.


There is a contact email webmaster@schoolsofnursing.co.uk<webmaster@schoolsofnursing.co.uk>;

May be worth an email?

MaxD

Thanks for that Max...I will give that some thought.
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 14 June 18 17:10 BST (UK) »
The only thing I can add is that the cross pictured is NOT a Maltese Cross - as used by The Order of St John, and St John organisations across the globe.

As I said, a cross pattée (patty) or perhaps a cross formée?

I didn't think it was KG it's not the right formation but thanks for the conformation, very helpful  :D

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 14 June 18 17:47 BST (UK) »
I can't quite make the cross out properly.Is it the same?


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Re: Looking for ID of Cross Please
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 14 June 18 19:15 BST (UK) »
It could be Audrey...Hepburn but not sure...the link shows a later uniform...late 1890s and mine is early-mid decade judging by the sleeves. The cross is very similar but a bit smaller than the one in my photo I think, but not sure.
Thanks for taking the time to look and respond, it's very much appreciated  :D
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Re: Looking for ID of Cross Please
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 14 June 18 20:24 BST (UK) »
Found this pic on Pinterest,but no more detail sadly.
Similar crosses appear associated with Alfred(?) Hosptal Australia(?)

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Re: Looking for ID of Cross Please
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 14 June 18 22:14 BST (UK) »
Interesting Youngtug, but your examples seem to be badges to be worn - i.e. smaller than the large cross hanging by the woman's side.  (I think the second example is closest in shape.)

Someone mentioned chatelaine - I wondered if it might be big enough to carry bits and pieces required on her duties  -  odd shape though, unless the main vertical part is a pocket and the side arms are just for show that she belongs to a particular hospital, and they wear a similar shaped badge.   (- - if you follow my drift)

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Re: Looking for ID of Cross Please
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 14 June 18 22:45 BST (UK) »
Found this pic on Pinterest,but no more detail sadly.
Similar crosses appear associated with Alfred(?) Hosptal Australia(?)

Regards
Roger

Very similar outfit Roger just a bit later in the  decade...she too is wearing a chatelaine as my lady is.
Thanks for your interest.
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 14 June 18 22:50 BST (UK) »
Seems to be several variations of the cross;
http://www.petersnursingcollectables.com/photos/51777t.jpg

http://www.petersnursingcollectables.com/photos/51898t.jpg

http://www.petersnursingcollectables.com/photos/51783t.jpg

http://www.petersnursingcollectables.com/photos/51779t.jpg

The one in the fourth link seems to be the closest in shape I think it's too small. My nurse also has a small medal on a bar but I couldn't scan it any clearer unfortunately.

Thanks for taking the time to look.
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