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Offline Lynda Karle

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Joesph John Frances Doven
« on: Friday 15 June 18 01:55 BST (UK) »
Hello, I'm looking for more information or a photo of my Great Grandfather J.J.F.Doven, I have a photo of my G Grandmother Margaret Doven who died in Sydney but I can't find a photo of him, i know he went back to England where he passed away, and I don't know why he went back to UK and left his family here.
if any one can help would be very pleased,
kind regards, Lynda.

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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 June 18 09:03 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat.  :)

When did your gt.grandmother die? 
Did Joseph return before or after her death?

He appears on a few trees on Ancestry; it might be worth contacting the tree owners to ask if they have any photographs.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 June 18 09:58 BST (UK) »
Is this Josephs death
Deaths Dec 1925 
Doven    Joseph    age 60   
Epsom    2a   80



His birth was registered in 1866.  The family went to Brisbane in 1920
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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 June 18 21:04 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

In case this helps, I think this is Joseph returning to the UK,


Ship Name:  Ormonde
Port of Departure:  Brisbane, Australia
Arrival date:  4 Apr 1922
Port of Arrival:  London

DOVEN  John Joseph F 
Proposed address in the UK:  86 Creadon Rd, N Camberwell
Occupation:  Nil
Age:  56
Country of Intended future permanent residence:  England


Transcribed at Ancestry just as John Joseph F.


So he wasn't in Australia long and this looks like he didn't mean to return there.

Regards,
Daisy
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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 June 18 06:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Daisy,
that is interesting, I didn't know when he left Australia.
that would be him, he was born 1866 London, and died 1925 Epsom Surry UK, and Margaret was born 1870 London and died 1956 NSW Australia.
Just can not find a photo of him, I'm thinking he must of looked something like his sons, Charles, Joseph and Walter, the boys all look much alike.
thank you darling for that,
regards Lynda.

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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 June 18 06:47 BST (UK) »
Sorry when I answered Daisy,
I should of said and would like to say thank you to both Nanny Jan and Rosie for trying to help me also.
kind regards Lynda

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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 June 18 07:39 BST (UK) »
86 Credon Road, Camberwell is where the family where living for several years prior to going to Australia (electoral registers).  His son Joseph with wife Laura continued to live there for a few years though Joseph senior does not appear on the register there after his return.

I wonder what he was doing in the Epsom area  :-\
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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 June 18 08:05 BST (UK) »
Hello Rosie,
half way through writing to you and I must of pressed something and as always it finished up in cyber space some.
so we will try again, I was trying to google the address but I think all has changed over the years, as I can't find Creadon road.
as for Epsom he was born there, unless there was family still there, how knows.
may I ask if you are connected to the family?
by the way I'm writing from Australia.
Lynda.

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Re: Joesph John Frances Doven
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 June 18 08:23 BST (UK) »
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