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« on: Friday 15 June 18 13:01 BST (UK) »
Been tracing my maternal grandmother's family history and have found that she has ancestors that came from England (our family is scottish) but some info about her ancestors doesn't seems to add up and the BMDs in England in the 1800s, particularly the late 19th Century, were all indexed and not much information was revealed about the person. For example, I want to know more about my 4x Great grandfather John Forster who was born in 1815 in England and died in Longtown in 1895. But I want to know who were his parents and I wondered if I ordered a PDF of his death records from GRO, would I find information about his parents, like you would in the scottish BMDs?
Stewarts from Moffat and Lanarkshire, Scotland.
Twaddles and Wrights from County Longford, Ireland.
Weirs from Ayrshire, Scotland.

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Re: BMD records
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 June 18 13:04 BST (UK) »
Sadly, no.
It will tell you date and place of death
Cause of death
Age at death. (To be taken with a pimpnch of salt)
Name and address of informant who if you are lucky is someone that takes you another step, but sometimes is the next door neighbour (for example)

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Re: BMD records
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 June 18 13:13 BST (UK) »
It was worth a ask. Don't suppose you know of any other ways to find parents' names in English
records?
Stewarts from Moffat and Lanarkshire, Scotland.
Twaddles and Wrights from County Longford, Ireland.
Weirs from Ayrshire, Scotland.

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Re: BMD records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 June 18 13:17 BST (UK) »
The other way's are marriage which will give fathers name if after 1837 and baptisms which generally will not give mothers maiden surname just her first name.

Best way is to try and track him back using census
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Re: BMD records
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 June 18 13:33 BST (UK) »
Hi
Out of interest which John Forster was he?
Who was the missus?
Family trees on Ancestry seem to go for John s of Thomas and Sarah Forester at the Scotch Presbyterian chapel at Bewcastle 3.3.1815 .Parents of Maltsgate parish of Stapleton.

But there are various couples and different wives.So there must be more than one man.
The census should give his birth place and with the name of his father from his marriage you can find his baptism in the parish records.

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Re: BMD records
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 June 18 13:59 BST (UK) »
All the census records and his death age point to an 1809 birth. There is a possible in the 1841 census in a household that is headed up by an Arthur and Ann Forster, who could be his parents or Arthur could be an older brother of John. John is not with the family in 1851.
They are at Nichol forest and that is where John died in 1895 and where he was on the census.
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Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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Re: BMD records
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 June 18 14:29 BST (UK) »
The John Forster who died in 1895 in Longtown was age 86. Following him back in the census and checking childrens’ births he appears to have been married to Elizabeth ( maiden name also Forster or Forrester). Two of their elder children (Elizabeth and Arthur) are with Forster grandparents John and Elizabeth in 1851. There is a marriage in Longtown in 1846 between John Forster son of Arthur and Elizabeth Forster daughter of John
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Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 June 18 16:48 BST (UK) »
From the Penrith Advertiser 1/10/1895. There was also a report in the Southern Reporter on 3/10/1895.
Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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Re: BMD records
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 June 18 20:34 BST (UK) »
My John Forster was married to a Cecilia Catherine MacKay, they got married in 1833 in Gretna Green. They had several children, including my 3 times great grandmother- Embling (Emily) Mackay Forster who was born in 1856. According to the censuses, he gave differing locations as his place of birth but they all were always in Cumberland. He was born between 1814 and 1816.
Stewarts from Moffat and Lanarkshire, Scotland.
Twaddles and Wrights from County Longford, Ireland.
Weirs from Ayrshire, Scotland.