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[isobelw]

My John Forster was married to a Cecilia Catherine MacKay, they got married in 1833 in Gretna Green. They had several children, including my 3 times great grandmother- Embling (Emily) Mackay Forster who was born in 1856. According to the censuses, he gave differing locations as his place of birth but they all were always in Cumberland. He was born between 1814 and 1816.

I see his death is actually recorded as Foster, hence the confusion
Isobel

[DeafDoggy488]

I know. I've tried searching for records using the variations of the surname but it's not really helpful.

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
I had a look at the censuses .
Is this them 1861?

John Forster   46
Cecilia Catharine Forster   43
William Forster   25
Mary Forster   19
John Forster   13
Jane Forster   10
Emily MacKay Forster   5

Then John says he was born at Lanercost.
There is a baptism  25.3.1813 there to John and Mary Forster.

But like you I'm not 100% sure it's the right one

Ciderdrinker

[DeafDoggy488]

Hi
I had a look at the censuses .
Is this them 1861?

John Forster   46
Cecilia Catharine Forster   43
William Forster   25
Mary Forster   19
John Forster   13
Jane Forster   10
Emily MacKay Forster   5

Then John says he was born at Lanercost.
There is a baptism  25.3.1813 there to John and Mary Forster.

But like you I'm not 100% sure it's the right one

Ciderdrinker

This is correct. This certain family is giving me headache because my 3x Great Grandmother is called Embling but in the records, she's called Emily. Which made for a very confusing search! The variation in the surname doesn't really help either.

Apparently, John's father is called Thomas Herring Foster but I'm not entirely sure if that's correct. In the 1851 census, he was born in Cammoch in Cumberland, then it changed to Lanercost. I'm also struggling to find him in the 1841 Census.

[isobelw]

Familysearch have three baptisms which may be relevant. They are all at Arthuret, Cumberland
Jane Forster 1852 parents John and Zillah
John Forster 1849 parents John and Zilla
Celia Forrester 1862 parents John and Celia
I note that John and Cecilia had a daughter Cecilia born in 1861 and the other two baptisms also match with known children.
Sadly I can’t find any actual images online
Isobel
Ps do you know where Emily was in 1871?

[isobelw]

I note that daughter Mary Cecilia was born in Southampton in 1842.  There is a possible 1841 census entry there. John Foster age 25, Cecile age 20 ( both showing as born Scotland) and William age 5 ( not born in county). There is also a Mary Foster age 14 ( showing as born Ireland).
Isobel

[DeafDoggy488]

That's why I'm so confused. John was supposedly to have been born in England, Cecilia was supposed to have been born in prembrokeshire, wales. Hence the original post asking if the death records revealed where they were born/parents details.

And as for Emily, I have no information on where she was in 1871 but I do know she got married to Ellison Robson in 1875.

[DeafDoggy488]

Interestingly enough I found this thread about Cecilia Catherine MacKay...

Now I'm curious as to how John and cecilia met, since they were a runaway bride and groom!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=572761.msg4251136#msg4251136

[isobelw]

There is an Emma Foster age 15 born Scotland working as a servant in Bewcastle district in 1871. I think this could be Emily.
Thomas Herring Forster was born in Norfolk and died in London so seems unlikely as a possible father. Also, according to the attached, he only had one son.
Isobel