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Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« on: Saturday 16 June 18 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hello i wonder if anyone can help me with my brick wall.

Maria Colagan (Marriage Certificate spelling) (25/11/1876 • St anns Church, Manchester, Lancashire, England, ) was born in Ireland (1891 Census and Family knowledge). Born about 1854 per census.

Maria's Father is shown as Christopher Colagan (deceased) Farmer on marriage certificate

On 13/8/1872 Bridget Colgan (sic) was born to Maria Colgan in Strokestown, Co. Roscommon. No father shown. (source Family search and baptism record)

The family remember that Maria came from Roscommon, but I am unable to find anything for her birth or her father.

She Married Patrick Dyer / Dwyer (Occ - Printer) in Nov 1876 also from Ireland. Born 1855 per marriage  certificate. From Longford Ireland per 1911 census and father John Dyer Labourer per Marriage cert.

Any ideas how I can get any additional information about Patrick, His ancestors or maria and hers? Ive hit a brick wall on them both. Many thanks

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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 June 18 11:53 BST (UK) »


On 13/8/1872 Bridget Colgan (sic) was born to Maria Colgan in Strokestown, Co. Roscommon. No father shown. (source Family search and baptism record)

Bridget has a birth cert, giving place of birth as Ashbrook
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03233/2185223.pdf
Hopefully Maria gave birth at home, which would narrow down the search area.

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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 June 18 12:02 BST (UK) »
Ashbrook or Knochnabarnaboy is in the Civil parish of Lissonuffy in the RC parish of Strokestown.

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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 June 18 20:33 BST (UK) »
Sadly this info has not taken me any further - but thank you.

any ideas of where to look?


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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 June 18 20:38 BST (UK) »
What religion where they?
Have you looked for Christopher in Griffith's Valuation, I can't check it on the iPad.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 June 18 20:50 BST (UK) »
 Marriage results for Christopher of Strokestown from 1864 to 1875 ; Death results for Christopher of Strokestown from 1864 to 1875

Displaying one result. Marriage of CHRISTOPHER MCDERMOTT  in 1865

so nothing on Civil Reg!


Try looking at church records!
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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 June 18 20:59 BST (UK) »
still nothing. frustrating! but thank you both again  ??? :(

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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 June 18 21:00 BST (UK) »
Maybe try Church Registers.
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Re: Colagan / Colgan / Dyre of Roscommon
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 June 18 21:36 BST (UK) »
Did Bridget marry? If so, does the record say who her father was?

Have you done all the siblings that you know of for Maria Colgan and Patrick Dyer/Dwyer? And all their children? I have found the county of origin in some unusual places, sometimes the children's death records, or a sibling's record.

the Catholic Parish Registers are at https://registers.nli.ie/. A quick look did not turn up a Bridget Colgan baptism in Strokestown in 1872.

The informant on her civil birth was Mary Sexton, occupier, of Ashbrook. What do you know about her? Was she related to Maria Colgan? Or she might have been a midwife. Or would it say so, I'm not sure, maybe someone else knows.

Griffith's Valuation of Longford was done in 1855, according to wikipedia. There were no Dyers in Longford. There is only one John Dwyer:

John Dwyer, Longford, Templemichael Parish, renting parcels 71a 71b, house, "offices", yard, and garden from Elizabeth McDonnell

find out what the Catholic parish was for Templemichael Civil Parish, and see if you can find a baptism for Patrick, son of John. But since they are both common given names, it would really help to find a few siblings of Patrick and hopefully find baptism records to match them all -  to identify the family a little better.

And don't go just by one census for a estimated year of birth. sometimes the ages are off by 5 years or more from one census to the next.

That's about all I can think of for suggestions.