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Which Mary did Francis marry?
« on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:10 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am confused and would appreciate some help.

Different family trees have Francis Foord (baptised 1795 at Westham and sometimes shown as Ford) marrying either -

On 5 December 1815 at Halden, Kent to a Mary Mantel (Mantle) or
On 15 September 1818 to Mary Anne Wadey at Brighthelmston, Sussex or
During 1818 to Mary Anne Wadey at St Nicholas, Brighton Sussex

The family are shown in the 1841/51/61 censuses with Francis dying in 1869 - Mary had already died in 1842.

Mary is shown as age 42 in 1841 suggesting she was born c1799 and familysearch.org has a Mary Anne Wadey christened in Goring, Sussex on 19 Dec 1799. There is a Mary Mantel christened on 17 May 1795 in Boughton-Malherbe, Kent but this one seems to be too early. The only thing I have to go on is the 1841 census which shows Mary living in Westham and being born in the county.

Between them Francis and Mary had 6 children - Henry 1818; Charles 1823; Susannah 1829; Sally 1831; Emma 1833 and Thomas 1842.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Alan

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:15 BST (UK) »
If they had a Thomas b 1842 then doesn’t his mmn on birth registration give you the answer?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:18 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees!!

Why didn't I think of that - thank you.

Alan

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:19 BST (UK) »
There is a Thomas Foord birth reg Mar qtr 1842 Eastbourne with mother’s maiden name Cutbush.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:32 BST (UK) »
You might also consider the possibility that Francis married more than one Mary.  There is a big gap between the births of Emma and Thomas.

The Francis who married Mary Wadey in 1818 was “of the 35th Regiment of Foot” - is that true of your man?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:35 BST (UK) »
There is a Thomas Foord birth reg Mar qtr 1842 Eastbourne with mother’s maiden name Cutbush

Sussex Marriage Index
24 May 1823, Beckley
Frances (sic) Foord + Mary Cutbush

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:44 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have just found Thomas's mother maiden name as Cutbush. So its not Wadey nor Mantel!!

Francis was an "Ag Lab" on one census and a "Butcher" on another so the 35th Regiment of Foot  man isn't involved. He is in the city and county directory for 1851 as a Butcher.

My current guess is that Mary died in childbirth when Thomas was born.

Alan

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 June 18 10:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

As I don't have access to any Sussex records, I wondered if you were able to find the names of Mary Cutbush's parents and her birth details?

I am assuming she was born c1797/9 most probably in the Sussex area?

Alan

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Re: Which Mary did Francis marry?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 June 18 11:08 BST (UK) »
Let's hope someone can help with that!