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GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« on: Saturday 16 June 18 18:25 BST (UK) »
My wifes grandmother had two brothers and  she was the youngest of the three children. One I have been successful on finding information but the other I have not had any success at all.   My wifes family heard stories he might of gone to the the United States but I dont know if that is true or not.

This is what I know of Frederick James Griffin

He was born to Isaac Frederick Griffin and Eliza Frances Foster

1878 Udimore, Sussex, England
Name Frederick James Griffin Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year 1878 Registration District Rye County Sussex Event Place Rye, Sussex, England

I find him on the 1881 census
Name   Frederic J. Griffen
Age   2
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1879
Relationship to Head   Son
Father   Frederic Griffen
Mother   Eliza F. Griffen
Gender   Male
Where born   Udimore, Sussex, England
Civil parish   Udimore
County/Island   Sussex
Country   England
Street Address   1 Wick Farm (Cottage)

I again find him on the 1891 census
Name   Frederick Griffen
Gender   Male
Age   12
Relationship   Son
Birth Year   1879
Father   Frederick Griffen
Mother   Fanny Griffen
Birth Place   Udimore, Sussex, England
Civil parish   Guestling
Residence Place   Guestling, Sussex, England
Sub registration district   Ore
ED, Institution or Vessel   9
Piece   758
Folio   139
Household Members   
Name   Age
Frederick Griffen   
Fanny Griffen   
Frederick Griffen   
Albert Griffen   
Rosey Griffen   

After that I cannot find a thing.  Any advice or help much appreciated.

Best wishes from Canada

Jim

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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 June 18 18:57 BST (UK) »
Possible death

Frederick J Griffin
Death Age:   80
Birth Date:   abt 1878
June 1958
Brighton Sussex
Volume:   5h
Page:   117

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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 June 18 19:08 BST (UK) »
There is also a Frederick J Griffin born about 1878 England on the 1930 USA census living at New Trier, Cook, Illinois, USA with wife Lizzie and son Lionel (aged 18) Frederick was a groom. Might be worth looking at that one. It doesn't say where in England he was born though.
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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 June 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
The Brighton death is possibly the Frederick J Griffin b 31st December 1878 married to a Florence L?
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 June 18 19:54 BST (UK) »
Is this Eliza F Griffin in 1901 - Census reference RG13  Piece 859  Folio 46  Page 3

Is Hildine the "Rosey" in the 1891 census?
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian - Price
Abergwynfi - Han(d)ford
Pontardawe - Lewis.

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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 June 18 20:01 BST (UK) »
The Brighton death could be a Frederick John Griffin who married a Florence Lottie Howe
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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 June 18 21:31 BST (UK) »
I agree that the death could be for the Frederick John Griffin who married Florence Lottie Howe
I found them on the 1939 ration census and it is a different Frederick

I checked the US census and looked at Frederick J Griffin living at New Trier Illinois with his wife Lizzie and son and it indicates they arrived in the US in 1914 and Lionel was born in the UK circa 1912

I found Lionel M their son and I am quite certain that  his father Frederick  is not I am looking for
as his name is Frederick James Newton Griffin.
Name:   Lionel Murlis Griffin
Gender:   Male
Christening Age:   0
Birth Date:   20 Jan 1912
Christening Date:   10 Apr 1912
Christening Place:   Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Father:   Frederick James Newton Griffin
Mother:   Lizzie Winifred Kate Griffin

That does not fit as I have never seen the name Newton


Hanes,  Hildine is the Rosey and Eliza her mother is in Rye with a mixed bag of half brothers and Hildine. Eliza's  mother Charlotte led a very full life.

I am starting to think that Frederick James is going to be one of the ones I dont have a breakthrough on as the information I can give about him is so sparse records wise and the family story about going to the Us was told to me by my wifes uncle who said his mother told him but she was born 12 years after Frederick so it may not be correct.

Jim



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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 June 18 21:55 BST (UK) »
Possibility?
Frederick J Griffin? Indexed as Griffen. Difficult to be sure. From Sussx (I think it says)
Age 29
On the Lake Erie to Canada, April 1906
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HG1-VW6


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Re: GRIFFIN Frederick James Any information or help appreciated.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 June 18 22:08 BST (UK) »
I agree Jon that it says Sussex

This looks promising.   I notice he was going to Toronto and he was a laborer and he was had 0 dollars on him.   I will follow him up in Canada now which is where his younger sister went when she married just after World War 1.

I wonder where he was in the 1901 British census.  If I could find him on that it would really help

Thank you so much for finding that record.

Jim