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John Jones (born c.1861 Leicester)
« on: Saturday 16 June 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
I am currently searching for my great-great grandfather, John JONES.

The earliest confirmed record I have for him is his 1887 marriage to Caroline Ann WEEKS, in Chatham, Kent.  I can then trace him through from the 1891 census to the 1911 census, where he and his family resided in Kent.

From the census, he is born in abt 1861 in Leicester, Leicestershire.  From his marriage certificate his father is apparently also called John.

What I am searching for is about his life prior to his marriage in 1887, and when he died.

Roz



1891 census: RG12/Piece: 664/129 p 30
1901 census: RG13/730/ 31 p 1.
1911 census: search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911england&h=50362
952&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt

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Re: John Jones (born c.1861 Leicester)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 June 18 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi at least it is not a John Jones b Wales, what are the occupations for John snr & jnr at marriage?!
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Re: John Jones (born c.1861 Leicester)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 June 18 22:03 BST (UK) »
Senior is a hosier
Junior is a labourer

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Re: John Jones (born c.1861 Leicester)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 June 18 23:36 BST (UK) »
Is he a labourer on all the censuses you found ....?
Is there any evidence of any of his Leicester Jones family also moving to Kent
Was his father still living when he married
And what addresses were given for the bride and groom ?

Any information  you have may help  distinguish him from other John Jones  including children's names  ( sorry I don't know how to access the census images from the refs you gave )
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid smith jones,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson


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Re: John Jones (born c.1861 Leicester)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 June 18 01:41 BST (UK) »
In 1911 John gives his Place of Birth as St Mary's, Leicester, and in 1901 his YoB is c1867, so working on a wider date range for his birth turned up a militia attestation form for a John Jones born St Mary's, Leicester - attested 18 Apr 1885 age given as 19 years & 6 months. 

His address was Foundry Inn, Belgrave Road, St Margaret (Leicester) Occupation: Labourer.  No family details are given, but he didn't appear for annual training after 1885 (1886 is marked 'Absent' and nothing thereafter).

The nearest I can find is a family in Halford Square, St Margaret in 1871:
Ann Jones Widow 46
Hannah Daur 23
Sarah 18
Richard 15
Margaret 11
John 7

In 1861 Ann is 38 and with a husband named Richard Jones, 38 Cordwainer born Ashby De La Zouch.  I couldn't find a suitable death for Richard - probably because he pops up in Tamworth, Staffordshire in 1871 with a wife named Adelaine & her son William Deakin aged 10.  As well as a Bootmaker, Richard is now the Local Methodist Preacher.

If this is the correct John Jones - and it's a big if - then this is his birth registration:
JONES, JOHN mmn JOYNES  GRO Reference: 1863  D Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 215
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: John Jones (born c.1861 Leicester)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 15:56 BST (UK) »
I wish I could afford the certificates to prove whether he is or isn't the right man I'm looking for.


I've also tried looking for his death, but haven't been able to find that either.