Frederick Henry White 1863-1948

[paulwilliams]

Hiya,
Researching my family tree I discovered Frederick Henry White 1863-1948 who is my maternal grandfather of husband of 1st cousin.

Information I have discovered:
1911 Census:
Frederick Henry White   Head   Male   48   East Woodhay Newbury, Berkshire
Occupation:   ARMY PENSIONER NIGHT WATCHMAN
Florence Jane White   Wife   Female   46   Barbados W I
Frederick James White   Son   Male   21   Barbados W I
Sybil Evelyn White   Daughter   Female   19   Halifax Canada
Charles Henry White   Son   Male   16   Barrackpore India
Reginald John White   Son   Male   13   Plymouth, Devonshire
George Arthur White   Son   Male   12   Mauritius
William Herbert White   Son   Male   8   Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire

Name:   Frederick Henry White
Event Type:   Military Service
Event Year:   1907
Residence Place:   , Carmarthenshire, Wales
Age:   43
Military Company/Regiment:   Royal Garrison Artillery
Military Regiment:   37590
Military Battalion:   PS Carmarthen
Birth Year (Estimated):   1864
Birthplace:   Newbury, Berkshire, England

Name:   Frederick Henry White
Event Type:   Military Service
Event Year:   1914
Age:   51
Military Company/Regiment:   Royal Garrison Artillery
Military Regiment:   2963
Birth Year (Estimated):   1863
Birthplace:   Newbury, Berkshire, England

Military History Sheet
Home B Class W 14/09/14--14/03/17
Res            15/03/17--14/12/18

Next of Kin Mrs Florence Jane White 95 Clare Road Cardiff

Marriage details; A) Wife Jane Florence Pearman
                  B) 30/09/87 Barbadoes
                  C) Minister G S Heath
                  D) Witnesses: Thos James Alford Mary Pearman


1871 Census
Name   Age
Catherine White   42
Edmund White   42
Frances F White   15
Catherine White   14
Martha White   13
Elizabeth White   11
Frederick White   8
Fleshia White   7
Elenor M White   3 Months

I came across a mention of his Military life which said RG (Royal Garrison) Curt (NEO)
what does Curt (NEO) mean? But wonder was it Navy as well?

Also why would you go from Barbados to Canada to India and Mauritius in a very short time was it usual to have your wife and family moving with you?

So many questions hopefully someone will be able to help me with information.
Thank you in advance.
Kind Regards
Paul Williams

[MaxD]

For starters :
Taking his first years of service which were 1883-1907.  He was in the West Indies 1885-1890 where he married Florence.  She then accompanied him when he went to Halifax 1890-92 and afterwards. He married Florence “without leave” in 1887 which meant simply that the army didn’t recognise her officially but she was later “brought on to establishment” in 1889 in Barbados which meant she was now able to travel and live with her husband (and the rest and the children follow from there!).  He was a sergeant by 1889 which meant it would have been easier to get his wife on the establishment than if he'd been a lower rank.  The moves from one station to another weren't really "a very short time" as you put it.

I'll get to the rest later.  May I ask if you are looking at the records or simply at the transcribed summary?
Could you say where you saw the Curt (NEO)  - that looks at first sight like a mis transcription of some thing and I'd like to see the original.
  Found it.  It is very badly written R G (for Royal Garrison) Arty (artillery) NCO non commissioned officer.

More on his WW1 record soon.

MaxD

[MaxD]

His second period of service was all in UK, from 14 Sep 14 to 14 Mar 17 in uniform and then he was placed in the Class W reserve which was for men considered more valuable in civilian life than in the army, he did not wear uniform and was not paid by the army.  He could be recalled at any time.  He was discharged from that commitment in Dec 18.

The Curt NEO is a typically poor Ancestry transcription of an admittedly badly written term.

Both sets of records have more detail of course if you want it.

MaxD

[paulwilliams]

Hi MaxD,
Many Thanks for the information.
Kind Regards
Paul Williams