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Elizabeth guy
« on: Wednesday 20 June 18 21:31 BST (UK) »
Hi wondering if you could help me.
My great great great grandmother Elizabeth guy was born roughly 1789 in Warwickshire.  She married a Stephen ainsworth in 1810  in Birmingham and had quite a few children. Ann 1813, Thomas 1818 , christening records say Lionel street, Joseph 1821 , Elizabeth down as ensor 1826 , Charles 1833 William  and Stephen James 1835 . Her husband Stephen ainsworth/ hainsworth died 1835 also. These christening record's/  death records have them living in slaney street.
The 1841 census  says that a Stephen ardsoff  1835 is living at moland street  with a thomas benbow and Ann benbow, along with Elizabeth Palmer 1785 and William Palmer . Two of tge otger children Joseph and either Charles or William are with there aunt Charlotte potter which is Elizabeth sister. They were living in slaney street.
My query is is Elizabeth Palmer in fact Elizabeth ainsworth who got married or did Elizabeth ainsworth pass away before the census and also are the benbows related in any way?
There was a Elizabeth ainsworth who passed 1871 but buying certificate has proved wrong .
Nb they have been down as hainsworth, ainsworth and ensor
Thanks
Kath

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Re: Elizabeth guy
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 June 18 22:09 BST (UK) »
I see an Elizabeth Guy bap Birmingam Warks
Name    Elizabeth Sarah Guy
Gender    Female
Christening Date    09 Apr 1792
Christening Place    SAINT MARTIN,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name    John Guy
Mother's Name    Mary

I see their child Ann was born 19 Feb 1811 bap 7 Apr 1817 lived at that time in Lionel St, Thomas born 20 Feb 1816 bap at the same date, Charles born 6 Mar 1833 bap 25 Aug 1833 at St Thomas's church lived at that time in Hanley St, Stephen James born  24 Nov 1835 bap 20 December 1835 ( St Thomas's church) Emma bap 26 December 1830 St Thomas's

In so far as the 1841 census it doesn't tell you the relationship to the head of house, so it is a matter of 'what you assume' which is a dangerous .game in researching family history, you will have to research and find other records like a marriage cert

I see 1851
Name    Stephen Ainsworth
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1851
Event Place    Saint George, Warwickshire, England
Registration District    Birmingham
Residence Note    Hospital Street
Gender    Male
Age    16
Marital Status    Unmarried
Occupation    Gun Finisher
Relationship to Head of Household    Nephew
Birth Year (Estimated)    1835
Birthplace    Birmingham,
Page Number    9
Registration Number    HO107
Piece/Folio    2058 / 254
Affiliate Record Type    Household
Household
   
Charlotte Potter    Head    F    50    Birmingham,
Joseph Ainsworth    Nephew    M    32    Birmingham,
Charles Ainsworth    Nephew    M    19    Birmingham,
Stephen Ainsworth    Nephew    M    16    Birmingham,
William Lane    Lodger    M    25    Birmingham,
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Elizabeth guy
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 June 18 22:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply.  I did briefly look to see if could find marriage nothing.  Dunno wether fresh eyes could find one.
I think Stephen; Elizabeth husband passed away in 1835 and was transcribed  as aynesworth.  All very confusing ! I know that Charlotte eventually married  William lane because he is down as brother in law to Charles guy in later census
Kath

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Re: Elizabeth guy
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 June 18 22:56 BST (UK) »
Is that the William Lane 'lodger' in the 1851 census?

Marriages/burials....... I would search the the  PRs north of Birmingham city centre...St Thomas's/St George ...St Martins in city centre ( where she was bap...if it is her) and look in later census where she was living and see what churches are near, but after 1837 there is civil registration as well


.....potentials maybe
'A' Wm Lane married in 1852 Elizabeth smith ( Brum)
Another Wm Lane married in 1855 in King Norton an Elizabeth Milley
Another married in 1858 in Warwick an Elizabeth Taplin
Another married in 1859  Elizabeth Kinman ( Brum)

and there are more
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend


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Re: Elizabeth guy
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 June 18 20:52 BST (UK) »
thank you for your reply , will look into this
kath