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Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 02:37 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I've spent the past five months trying to find a female ancestor, but with no luck at all. Here is the story: I had my DNA tested, and am corresponding with my 4th/5th cousin (the DNA company says he's my 5th cousin, but a genealogist friend says he's my 4th cousin). My link to my cousin is this mystery woman who may or may not have been born in Bermuda. All he knows is that her surname was Scott. My Mother was born in Birmingham, and her maternal grandmother's maiden name was Scott. The mystery lady Scott met a man in Bermuda, and had two sons with him, circa 1865. We do not think they were married, especially as it was a mixed-race relationship, and I would imagine that marriage would not have been legal in Bermuda in this situation at the time (?). His name was Sam; he appears to have taken Miss Scott's surname, as did her sons. The sons, Charles and Stuart, were born in Bermuda around 1865, Charles being the oldest.

In 1909, Stuart/Stewart (my cousin states his name as "Stuart") emigrated to the U.S.: Stewart Scott   Immigration   26 Aug 1909 Hamilton, Bermuda   Male   41   Married   Great Britain, African   1868 (source: New York Passenger Arrivals...(Ellis Island), 1892-1924, FamilySearch.org. I also found a similar record for either Stu or Charles that stated his mother' s birthplace was Bermuda, but now I can't find it.

I think their father, Sam, lived to be at least 50, judging by a photo of him.

So, am I looking for the brother of my either 3rd or 4th Great-Grandfather, and that brother's daughter, who either was not married or was married and used her maiden name of Scott? When she had her first child with Sam, I am assuming that she was at least 15 years old, which would circa-date her to being born in 1850. Of course, she could be older, even much older.

I can't find anything in the sparse online Bermuda records. There were quite a few Scotts in Barbados and Jamaica, though those island are far away from Bermuda, but I wonder if she originally came from there (or England, in the Birmingham area), and moved to Bermuda.

Thank you.

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 June 18 03:33 BST (UK) »
Can you give your great grandma s name date of birth and anything you may know about her family please .

And of course any birth dates your DNA, match has of nearest descendants of Sam and Ms Scott.
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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 June 18 03:41 BST (UK) »
My GR-GR Grandmother:  Edith Frances Smart (born Scott), born 1884, Birmingham, England. Her father: Alfred William Scott, b. 1861.
Her Grandfather: *William Ganderton Scott, b. 1832.
Her great-grandfather: *William Jesson Scott, 1809-1886
Great-Great-Grandfather: *William OR John Scott, 1791-
(*=I am not 100% certain. There are so many Williams, then Alfred Williams, then William Alfreds!)

Children of William Ganderton Scott: Alfred William, b.1861
                 William Jesson Scott: Walter, 1833, John, 1837, George, 1839, Eliza, 1842, Henry, 1846, Ellen, 1849, Thomas, 1851.
                  William or John Scott: Samuel, 1797, Benjamin, 1806, Ann, 1808, William Jesson, 1809.

I think the secret lies with the daughters of William Jesson Scott or William Ganderton Scott, but I can't place them in Bermuda.

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 June 18 03:59 BST (UK) »
I found a Stewart stephan Scott
Travelling from trinidad in 1947 nearest relative given as Mrs Quesmal address seems to be Oilfields

On same page are Rodney Scott b1929 and Janet mary doreen Scott  who give their nearest relative as Stuart stephan Scott in British West indies
Could they be his children ?


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894K-M7YQ?i=275&cc=1923888
# they are all described as white
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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 June 18 04:13 BST (UK) »
Here's Charles Scott and wife Eleanor in 1930 new Jersey

Living with married daughter eleanor OBlInis

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4FJ-4JL

( neice Margaret Lowell aged 12)
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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 June 18 05:15 BST (UK) »
Alice Scott b1867  seems to be sister or sister in law  to  Charles connection thru Lovell /Lowell family

Eleanor O Blenis has neice 
Margaret Lowell age 9

1920 census Alice+ daughters all born Bermuda
granddaughters including Margaret Lovell aged 2 s
 all described as mulatto
 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJN-NJZ?i=32&cc=1488411

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 June 18 05:39 BST (UK) »
this looks like a family group at Ellis Island in 1909

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T3-T3PG-G?i=308&cc=1368704

Mrs Marion EASTON  age 37 B Bermuda African Black  contact in Bermuda  Stuart Scott (brother)
Robert Easton age 5   ditto  contact Stuart Scott (uncle)
Stewart SCOTT age 41  ditto. Contact Mrs S Scott (wife)

so Marion would have been born abt 1872 and this Stewart about 1868  Which would fit with them being siblings of Alice.

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 June 18 05:41 BST (UK) »
marriage of a son of Marion's  https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Amarion~%20%2Bsurname%3AScott~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Abermuda~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1870-1875~

so her husband's name was William

Is there a marriage in Bermuda for Marion Scott and William Easton that might name her parents?

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 June 18 05:52 BST (UK) »
I think they are giving stuarts name as contact rho he is travelling with them

Alice  immigration date was 1910 so she could well have been Mrs s Scott

Do we know if the patriarch Sam also travelled to USA ?

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