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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 23 June 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
Back to the William Scott who was the husband of Rosina and father of Alfred William - b abt 1832, son (according to his marriage entry) of George Scott, architect.

Unfortunately we don’t have a birthplace for this William.  In 1861 he is not with Rosina - she is enumerated as married, but is with 5mo old Alfred and her parents Isaac and Ann Harlow at the White Swan in Birmingham. 

RG9/2168/57/29

So, William could have been from anywhere.

I noticed that; I fond that Rosina Juliette Harlow (what a pretty name!) was living with the Harlows, her parents, but "Berks" is a surname. I'm wondering if William died?

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 23 June 18 21:54 BST (UK) »
Presumably William was still alive in 1861 (Rosina Scott is “married”, rather than “widowed”, in that census).

It’s the later censuses when she’s Berks, having remarried in 1864 (see reply #13).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:00 BST (UK) »
 
I can only find one George Scott architect in 1851 & 1861 censuses.  He was George Gilbert SCOTT b 1811.  He was knighted in 1872 and died in 1878  (Wikipedia)

But he didn't get married (To Caroline OLDRID) until 1838

Sons born to them seem well documented with no sign of visits to Bermuda

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:41 BST (UK) »
I don't know if this will help you?
Robert James Scott
Living in Woolwich, London
Birth Year of 1848
Was married in 1873
Was born in Bermuda pre-1852
Could be a relative of your mystery lady?

Robert James Scott
England and Wales Census, 1871
Robert James Scott
Gillingham, Kent, England
23
Single
Corporal Royal Engineer
Birth Year (Estimated)   1848
Birthplace   Bermuda

Marriages Dec 1873
SCOTT    Robert James        W.Ham    4a   32
WATTS           Mary Ann                   W.Ham    4a   32

son Walter James Scott born 1877

This man's attestation documents are dated at Westminster 11 Jan 1862 when he was age 14 - so he might be around in 1861?   
He has a Fresh Complexion, Grey Eyes and Brown Hair


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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 24 June 18 00:00 BST (UK) »
Here's Charles Scott and wife Eleanor in 1930 new Jersey

Living with married daughter eleanor OBlInis

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4FJ-4JL

( neice Margaret Lowell aged 12)

Regarding the Lowell/Lovell link: Familysearch has a record of a Jennie Scott and Charles Lovell, both born Bermuda, having a daughter (no first name, surname Scott, “black”) born 25 Feb 1926 and died 2 March 1926, Manhattan.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 24 June 18 00:08 BST (UK) »
1910 Marion Easton is a widow and in hospital
Says she has 7 living children (out of 15)
parent's birth place recorded as Bermuda, and then that has been crossed out and it seems to say Atlantic Is  - is there such a place?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RV5-47V?i=24&cc=1727033

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 24 June 18 00:14 BST (UK) »
Here's Charles Scott and wife Eleanor in 1930 new Jersey

Living with married daughter eleanor OBlInis

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4FJ-4JL

( neice Margaret Lowell aged 12)

Regarding the Lowell/Lovell link: Familysearch has a record of a Jennie Scott and Charles Lovell, both born Bermuda, having a daughter (no first name, surname Scott, “black”) born 25 Feb 1926 and died 2 March 1926, Manhattan.
Jennie and Charles Lovell are part of this family. I can't find the records right now, but I know they were.

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 24 June 18 00:20 BST (UK) »
1910 Marion Easton is a widow and in hospital
Says she has 7 living children (out of 15)
parent's birth place recorded as Bermuda, and then that has been crossed out and it seems to say Atlantic Is  - is there such a place?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RV5-47V?i=24&cc=1727033

I wondered about that. "Atlantic Islands", perhaps, but I have never heard of that.  I know that a woman in the Scott/Lovell family around the turn of the century may have been born in Barbados, and it was noted in my cousin's family tree as "Bermuda or Barbados?". However, I don't think it was she. I can't look, as I think it was on Ancestry--which I don't subscribe to; I use it at work, and I won't be in until Monday. Sorry for the vague "I know that...." citations!  I do have a good memory for these things. I just can't go back and cite them here right now.

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 24 June 18 00:21 BST (UK) »
Jennie Lovell died in Manhattan on 6 March 1926 aged 36 (four days after the death of her newborn daughter).

Her parents are named as Charles Scott and Eleanor Parker.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)