Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?

[brigidmac]

Here's a link to search Bermuda records

http://cdm15212.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/

Yes we need to work backwards to find Charles Stuart (Alice  )  's  father Samuel  and their English mother

[whiteout7]

I don't know if this will help you?
Robert James Scott
Living in Woolwich, London
Birth Year of 1848
Was married in 1873
Was born in Bermuda pre-1852
Could be a relative of your mystery lady?

Robert James Scott
England and Wales Census, 1871
Robert James Scott
Gillingham, Kent, England
23
Single
Corporal Royal Engineer
Birth Year (Estimated)   1848
Birthplace   Bermuda

Marriages Dec 1873
SCOTT    Robert James        W.Ham    4a   32
WATTS           Mary Ann                   W.Ham    4a   32

son Walter James Scott born 1877

[avm228]

It’s the 1930 US census (Passaic, NJ) in which Charles Scott’s parents’ birthplaces are said to be Bermuda.  He is 57 in 1930, wife Eleanor (also Bermudian) is 54, and they married at 18 and 15.  He immigrated in 1908 and she in 1921.

(I now see that brigidmac has already linked this upthread).

[avm228]

You say your Scott research traces back from Edith Frances Scott b “1884”, Birmingham.

In fact Edith Frances Scott’s birth was registered Sep qtr 1883 Birmingham with mother’s maiden name Carter. 

Her parents were Alfred William Scott and Sarah Eliza Carter, married Dec qtr 1882 Aston.  Do you have that marriage record for his father’s details?

[avm228]

Subject to that marriage certificate, it looks as though Alfred William Scott was born in Birmingham in 1860 (rather than 1861 as you have it) - birth registration Dec qtr 1860 with mother’s maiden name Harlow.

His parents were William Scott and Rosina Juliette Harlow, who married at Aston on 10 October 1858.  William was 26, an office clerk of Aston Manor, son of George Scott, architect.

William looks likely to have died (or left) early on, as Rosina went on to remarry to Albert Edward Berks in West Bromwich, 1864.  Alfred appears to have been the only child born to William & Rosina.

Anyway - from what I have seen so far there doesn’t seem to be a long line of Williams, as was suggested earlier

[brigidmac]

So  we now need censuses to show all the siblings

Could it be a male Scott who went to Bermuda  not a mystery woman
Or

A bermudan man coming to England  and fathering a Scott child

I get the feeling roosters may beven able to join the dots for you  .
Avm I hadn't noticed their ages at marriage. ..I wonder how common it was for 15 year olds to marry .

[avm228]

William Ganderton Scott b 1832 seems to be a different person - son of William, a gun furniture filer (and took on the same occupation).  No sign of his middle name in records post his 1837 baptism.

This William Scott married Charlotte Devorex at St Martin, Birmingham on 11 August 1851 (as Charlotte Deveraux, 20, servant, she had been a visitor to his family in the 1851 census). They and their children can be traced through subsequent census records.

1861 for this family: RG9/2134/100/39 - children Henry & William.
1871 for this family: RG10/3097/98/1 - children Henry, William, John, Charlotte, Thomas.

[avm228]

Back to the William Scott who was the husband of Rosina and father of Alfred William - b abt 1832, son (according to his marriage entry) of George Scott, architect.

Unfortunately we don’t have a birthplace for this William.  In 1861 he is not with Rosina - she is enumerated as married, but is with 5mo old Alfred and her parents Isaac and Ann Harlow at the White Swan in Birmingham. 

RG9/2168/57/29

So, William could have been from anywhere.

[JewellersGranddaughter]

I can't find any records regarding a marriage for Marion Scott, at least in Bermuda. I don't know what happened to Sam, sadly. The trail for Sam and my ancestor, Miss Scott, seems to end with the birth of  their sons, Charles and Stuart Scott. I don't know what Sam's real surname was--he seems to have adopted "Scott" as his surname after the love affair with my ancestor, Miss Scott, and their children took "Scott" as their surname, as well. I wonder if Sam used another surname later? Judging by a photo of him, I'd say he looks about 50+, so he must have lived until at least 50. At any rate, I can't find anything about him anywhere.  In fact, if my cousin hadn't told me about him, I wouldn't have known this story. I emailed him last night about Marion Scott. I'll let you know what he says.


Thank you for all of your help!