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is James Chaplin senI or linked to Charlie Chaplin senior
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 09:25 BST (UK) »
My brother in law was told that his grand father was Charlie Chaplin s cousin ...
I thought I'd be able to solve it for him but Ancestry  subscription have run out and  eyes are strained

I think the cousins were actually  Charles chaplin senior and alfred john Chaplin but don't have their birth years to find mutual grandfather

The dates I do know  are Eric Alfred Chaplin 1923 -1996 wife Margaret Lillian Smith

His father was Alfred Thomas Chaplin

Who I belive is the one born 1888 in Fulham
Wife Caroline A Bradford

In which case his father  Alfred John CHAPLIN would be born Newton Suffolk  aged 33 in 1901 wife Eliza C
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Re: Help finding link betwee alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 June 18 09:29 BST (UK) »
Charlie Spence Chaplin was born 1888 and his brother Sydney  4 years earlier
Charles  Chaplin senior was not in the picture they were brought up by their mother nee HILL

Does anyone know where Charles senior was born and his father's name

I believe there is no proof of a marriage  for Hanah
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Re: Help finding link betwee alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 June 18 09:40 BST (UK) »
It looks as if Eric  Alfred Chaplin had 2 other siblings both MMN Bradford

Ivy C  born 1914
Joan M 1927
 then Eric himself was born 1923
All registered Fulham

The is also a marriage St John Fulham 1887
Alfred Chaplin aged 19 father James
to Eliza Caroline Bradford aged 20 father Thomas

Might not be much help to you

Have you considered 1939 register

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Help finding link betwee alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 June 18 09:44 BST (UK) »
I thought Eric Alfred was an only child

I .ll have to check that
With his son

 I don't have access to 1939 register at moment
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Re: Help finding link betwee alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 June 18 09:48 BST (UK) »
They are the births shown with MMN Bradford all born Fulham, perhaps it is a coincidence

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Help finding link betwee alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 June 18 10:06 BST (UK) »
I havenít checked through it, but Find My Past has a ĎFamous family treesí blog about Charlie Chaplin.

They have Charlie Chaplinís grandfather as Spencer Chaplin born c.1826 in Ipswich.

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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 June 18 10:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks lily  I.ll try and work down from
Spencer Chaplin .

And hope he had a son called Alfred John Chaplin which is the information I have

Louisa :James can be an alternative for John on census 1901 Alfred born Fulham has father Alfred and mothef Eliza C CHAPLIN   from Newton Suffolk

So could be correct ..ivy and joan may have died young

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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 June 18 10:30 BST (UK) »
According to Wikipedia Charles Chaplin & Hannah Hill were married in 1885.
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Surname     First name(s)       District     Vol     Page
Marriages Jun 1885 
Bottle    William Henry        St Saviour    1d   325    
Chaplin    Charles         St. Saviour    1d   325    
Collins    Charlotte         St. Saviour    1d   325   
Hill    Hannah Harriett         St. Saviour    1d   325    

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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 June 18 10:42 BST (UK) »
Online tree, don't know if it will help

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&p=spencer&n=chaplin

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