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Offline louisa maud

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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 23 June 18 10:47 BST (UK) »
22/06/1885 St John's Walworth

Charles Chaplin aged 22 father Spencer a Butcher
to
Hannah Harriett aged 19 father Charles Boot Maker
both of 57 Brandon St


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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
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Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 23 June 18 11:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Louise Ray & Cas

That family tree shows Spencer Chaplin b Ipswich a1826 as only having 1 child
Charles (smr)

So the relation must be thru
Shadrach Spencer b1814 Suffolk

I don't know where b i l family originated

Eric Alfred b 1923 lived in London 1939
** married in Harrow middlesex1951.
Died in Surrey 1996
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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 23 June 18 11:41 BST (UK) »
Here's Shadrach in 1841

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M738-CP7

Not seeing any connection to Alfreds branach yet
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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 23 June 18 11:55 BST (UK) »
Shadrach in 1841
  eldest son Christopher age 12 Spencer age 6
shadrac 3 and
Emilia 1

In 1851 he is a brewer (master )

In 1861 an inn keeper with another son Henry

So plenty of descendents to follow

1st person to find an Alfred gets a gold star !
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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 23 June 18 12:00 BST (UK) »
Check table one of Chaplin family, not sure if it will help thou, not finding a clear connection.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m8x/ near the beginning of book

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 23 June 18 12:10 BST (UK) »
Oooh, what an incentive!!!!!!

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 23 June 18 12:31 BST (UK) »
That's fantastic  Cas
I've been looking  at shadrach 2  as the article calls him

I had found that he went back to his father's trade and was a bootmaker aged 67 in 1881 & a clog maker in 1891

But have some conflicting information about his wife as I think  Sophie died in Ipswich in 1868 

his wife in 1881 and 1891 is Susan

So I wonder if  his children  got inheritance from 2nd wife

I'm presuming    Shadrach 2 siblings Mesach Abednego are boys names
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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 23 June 18 12:53 BST (UK) »
Cas I've read 5 pages but didn't see a table

Do you mean page 1

I'm off to look for Spencer Chaplin s 7 children ....have to look at the girls too because there could be single parents in the mix
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Re: Help link: alfred john chaplin and Charlie Chaplin senior
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 23 June 18 12:57 BST (UK) »
Cas I've read 5 pages but didn't see a table

Do you mean page 1

I'm off to look for Spencer Chaplin s 7 children ....have to look at the girls too because there could be single parents in the mix

Very much at the beginning of book, there are 2 tables of family, like a chart.
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall