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Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 12:10 BST (UK) »
Hi
Does anyone have access to the parish registers of this area. I suspect it would either be Littelton on Severn, Alverston St Helens or Olveston St Mary.
I am particularly interested in the father of the bride but any witnesses etc would be helpful as well.
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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 June 18 14:59 BST (UK) »
Trying to find a Mary Ann CLIFFORD born Olveston, and there is one on the 1911 census aged 25 born Olveston

? on the 1891 Census for the Cottage at Olveston is

Geo CLIFFORD - aged 54, General labourer, born Cricklade, Wilts
Clara CLIFFORD - aged 54, born Dorsetshire
Alfred - 18 - born Glos Olveston
and
Polly CLIFFORD - Grandchild aged 2 - born Olveston

Still with them 1901 census
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Polly CLIFFORD christened 14 April 1889 at Alveston St Helen: Mother Aimie CLIFFORD.


? as Polly is a nickname for Mary Ann

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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 June 18 16:06 BST (UK) »
For info a family tree has her parents as Maurice Clifford and Elizabeth Young.
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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 June 18 17:56 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has the baptism (transcription) of

Mary Ann Clifford, 29 Jan 1893, residence Olveston, parents Maurice and Elizabeth

Found a military record for a James Edward Sansum (FindMyPast), attested 1903, age 18. Born Littleton on Severn - could this be your James E Sansum?
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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 June 18 18:13 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann SANSUM
Death: Age 82
Birth Date: 13 March 1889
Registration Date: Sept 1971
Registration District : Weston-super-Mare


and her husband

Registered in Weston Super Mare - March 1961

SANSUM James Edwin otherwise James Edward of 2 Brick Cottages, Littleton-on-Severn, Glos. died at the General Hospital, Weston-Super-Mare

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As we are not allowed to quote 1939 Register - have sent a private reply which gives Mary's dob

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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 June 18 18:45 BST (UK) »
The Brick Cottage address links to the Army record on FindMyPast.
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Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
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Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 June 18 19:01 BST (UK) »
The General Register Office (GRO) has the birth registration of a -

Mary Ann Young, Mar Qtr 1893, Thornbury, 6a 216 - mother's maiden name Young
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Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
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Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 June 18 21:03 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann Cliffford, daughter of Maurice/Elizabeth, can be found with the family on the 1911 Census. But the age is 8 years out compared with her 1901 Census age. Her age was originally entered in the "Ages of Males" column, crossed out and entered in the correct column - but badly written. It could be a badly written "8", and thus transcribed as a "0".
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Re: Marriage of James E Sansum and Mary Ann Clifford 1913 Thornbury RD
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. My problem is I am quite sure that the Mary Ann Clifford who married James Sansum was in fact Polly who was the illegitimate daughter of Annie (transcribed as Aimie in her baptism record). Annie being the sister of Maurice who married Elizabeth Young. Their daughter Mary Ann was born in 1893 GRO and baptism so would not tie with the birth date given to Mary Ann Sansum in later records.
I have no birth date for Polly only a baptism which would fit nicely. So I had hoped that the marriage register would give the father of Mary Ann who married Sansum or in Polly's case no father.
There is also an outbound passenger list for a Mary Ann Clifford a servant aged 18 with birthdate 1893 bound for New York but no address or other means of identification.
Thanks Val
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