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I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi there, I'm new to Roots Chat.

I just wondered if anyone had any advice. I am searching for records of my great grandfather. His name was Henry Bertram Harris. He is listed as a 4 year old 'boarder' on the 1911 census, with the Frederick Cornish family in Somerset. His birth place is listed as Essex.

I can't find any further records of his birth and I don't know either of his parents' names.

Does anyone know why he might have ended up across the country as a boarder with another family?

Thanks in advance for any help or tips!

Mel 😊

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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 June 18 22:53 BST (UK) »
Track the host family back to see if any brothers/sisters ended up Essex way?
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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:08 BST (UK) »
Hello and welcome to RootsChat

there is this death reg (which also gives a d.o.b.)

Henry Bertram Harris
Born 27 May 1906
Death reg Jun 1979 age 73
Carlisle
1 0158

there is also Lt Corporal of similar name enlisted in Essex regiment 25/11/12 -wonder if there is some connection?

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:12 BST (UK) »
Possible birth in June quarter 1906 in Chelmsford - Harry Bertram Harris, no mothers maiden name on GRO record. Fits with info from Suzard
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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:27 BST (UK) »
Looks like he was illegitimate.  Buying a copy of the 1906 birth cert will give his mothers name
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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:28 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me too.

Stock and Ingatestone seem to be the two suggested possible birthplaces for him.  Both were in Chelmsford registration district.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 June 18 23:34 BST (UK) »
He is on the 1939 register under his surname but just his initials.  You can find the entry by inputting his surname and date of birth
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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 June 18 00:22 BST (UK) »
Definitely investigate the CORNISH family. I have one "boarder" on the census who turned out to be the illegitimate grandson of the head of household and another "boarder" who was the great-nephew of the head of household- in the latter case, tracing the host family turned out to be the breakthrough I needed.

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Re: I've hit a dead end with my GGF :(
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 June 18 02:04 BST (UK) »
Quote from: CaroleW on Saturday 23 June 18 23:27 BST (UK)
Looks like he was illegitimate.  Buying a copy of the 1906 birth cert will give his mothers name

which you can order here https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp  a PDF emailed to you is cheaper (and arrives sooner!) than the legal certificate
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