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William Furneaux baptised 1579, Paignton: Son of Henry Furneaux
« on: Sunday 24 June 18 22:14 BST (UK) »
Hello There,

I realise this may be a long shot.

I have been trying to work out which Henry Furneaux of Paignton is which, and which one fits in as being the father of my William:
A Henry Furneaux married a Christian (somebody) in Paignton in 1565.
The original image for the marriage on Find My Past just says:
"Henry Furneaux married Christian."
One of his sons William Furneaux baptised 1579 in Paignton was one of my 11x great granddad's.

There was a Will of Henry "Furnis" of Paignton dated 13 Mar 1587/88:

"Will of Henry Furnis of Paignton, signed 30th year of Eliz'th, proved 13 March,
1587-8, Exeter Consistory Court. Inventory £180:17:0. Daughter Johan
Furnis, son Roberto, son John the elder and John the younger, and children oi
John the elder. Also son Henry Furnis. Christian his wife sole executrix. Henry
Furnes and Robert Furnes witnesses. ":
https://archive.org/stream/miscellaneagenea02unse/miscellane...

There is also a Will of Henry Furneaux "The Elder" of Paignton dated 19th of Sep 1625.
He names his "eldest son" William Furneaux "residuary legatee and executor".
This William is named William Furneaux, the elder: William did have son called William.
I estimate he was baptised in Paignton in 1579, my 11x great granddad. William married Jane Chaddor/ Chadder in Paignton in 1598. He mentions sons of William called James and Robert which I have been able to find:

"Will of Henrie Furneuxe the elder, of Paignton, Devon, Yeoman, dated 19th
Sept., 1625, pr. 6th Sep., 1626, Exeter, Bp.'s Peculiar, Consistory Court. Son John,
also John son of aforesaid John. James, son of William Furneuxe the elder, his
son Robert, son of the said William F. the elder, and Henrie, son of Henrie Fur-
neuxe of Ashburton. Residuary legatee and executor William Furneuxe, his eldest
son. Henrie Furneuxe overseer. Desires to be buried at Paignton beside his late
wife. Inventory £42 : 13 : 4. ":
https://archive.org/stream/miscellaneagenea02unse/miscellane...

I know that my William baptised in 1579 was a son of a Henry. But I'm not sure which of the above two Henry's he was a son of.
The older(?) Henry's wife Christian made her Will in Paignton dated the 6th of Jan 1603. Confusingly she names Henry "Furnace" as her son in-law:

Will of Christian Furnace of Paignton, dated 6 Jan., 1603, proved Feb. 3rd,
Consistory Court, Exeter. Son William Fost and his children Henerie, Sisley,
Catherine, also her son John Fost and his son William and other children. Her
daughter Johan Yenning and her children. Her son-in-law Henerie Furnace
and son Henerie Furnace. Witnesses William Furnace and others. Inventory
£44 : 13 : 4. :
https://archive.org/stream/miscellaneagenea02unse/miscellane...

The original burial image for Christian Furneaux in 1603 in Paignton states that she was a "Widow."

What I am trying to work out is if the Henry Furneaux of the will written in 1587/88 was actually a grandfather of my William Furneaux baptised in 1579.
But the only marriage I can find for Henry Furneaux before 1579 around Paignton is Henry Furneaux and Christian in 1565. And the older will of Henry does not mention William Furneaux.

The "Visitation of England and Wales Notes: Volume 6 1906: Pedigree of Furneaux, Vol 6. p 34": Shows the William baptised in 1579 to be the son of the Henry of the will dated 19th of September 1625. And this Henry's wife died before him:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=2JY5M_pcdvQC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=John+Dolbeare+will+1642&source=bl&ots=fJmeaFH7Yy&sig=x84MlDKg22coJ0JPTastr3Vr9xw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZiIyK0O7bAhWjDMAKHYs4CsUQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=John%20Dolbeare%20will%201642&f=false

It also shows William's brother as John. But I can't find a baptism for a "John, son of Henry Furneaux." Or  a burial in Paignton before 1625 for a: "Wife of Henry Fernaux" either.

I apologise for waffling on here. If anyone has any information at all it would be gratefully accepted.

Thank you very much.

 :) ;)






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Re: William Furneaux baptised 1579, Paignton: Son of Henry Furneaux
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 June 18 21:54 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at the Guild of One Name Studies website, https://one-name.org/
There is a Furneaux one name study.
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Re: William Furneaux baptised 1579, Paignton: Son of Henry Furneaux
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 June 18 22:00 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at the Guild of One Name Studies website, https://one-name.org/
There is a Furneaux one name study.

No, I haven't looked at that. Thank you.

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Re: William Furneaux baptised 1579, Paignton: Son of Henry Furneaux
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 June 18 14:34 BST (UK) »
Hello There,

I have now been able to resolve which Henry was which, and who was the father of my William, with help from someone on "Ancestry", and looking through parish registers of Paignton at the Library:

My William born 1579 was the son of the Henry Fernaux the elder who made his Will in 1625.
Henry's wife, according to this Henry's will had died before him.
Her name was Cicely, and she was buried on the 25th of July 1614, in Paignton. There was a Cicely Furneaux buried in 1618 in Paignton, but that one was wife of a John, not Henry. This is on the "Devon Burials" image on Find My Past:
" Cicely w (Wife) of Henry Furneaux sen." Henry was named: "Henry Fernaux sen", because he had a son called Henry in 1584.

Henry Fernaux senior, was also a son of a Henry Fernaux. He is estimated to have been born in Paignton, possibly around 1550, or at least before the parish registers of Paignton began in 1559.
As I said previously, this Henry father of William married a Cicely at some point. I haven't been able to find a record of a marriage. But William was baptised 1579 in Paignton, so may have been before then.

The Henry Fernaux, possibly born 1550 was a son of a Henry Fernaux and a "Joan/ Johan."
This Joan/ Johan was buried on the 29th of August 1564 in Paignton:
From the original register on Find My Past (Devon Burials): “Joan W (wife of ) Henry Furneis (Furneaux).”
There was a Joan, wife of Henry who was buried 1568 in Paignton. But this must have been a different Henry. That is because in Henry's will he mentions: "Christian, his wife", as sole Executrix, and some of his children. Henry Fernaux married Christian (surname unknown), on the 19th of May 1565, in Paignton.
With Joan, Henry had these Children:
Henry and John were born before the registers began in 1559. There was possibly a Matthew in 1560. Robert was baptised in 1563.

He married Christian on the 19th of May 1565. With Christian he had:
Joan/ Johan - baptised the 19 of Apr 1566 in Paignton. This daughter was not actually baptised with a name. But from Henry's will dated 1587 he mentions: "my daughter Johan." Johan is also mentioned in Henry's widow's will dated 1603, as Christain's daughter: "my daughter Johan Yenning."

This Henry's year of birth has been estimated to have been around 1530. He was buried on the 16th of February 1587 in Paignton.
His widow Christian was buried in Paignton, on the 10th of January 1603. From "Devon Burials" on Find My Past:
"Christian Furnis, (Furneaux) Wid."

There are some trees on Ancestry that have the grandfather of the Henry born 1530, as Thomas Fernaux. This Thomas was a Vicar of Ashburton church, and he died in 1517 in Ashburton. The trees are based on a book written in 1933, by William Hamlyn, who researched these Furneaux's.
There is apparantely a Plaque in Ashburton church that states he was a Knight: "Sir Thomas Fernaux.":

"Notes from Hamlyn: The next records are at Ashburton, where, as several authorities suggest, a descendant of the Fenottery line may have gone, a probability enhanced by the Thomas of Ashburton being a Knight.   There is a family legend that there was a  Furneaux family at South Brent in 1515."
This Sir Thomas was apparantely Vicar from 1493-1517. He is listed in the Church Wardens accounts of Ashburton.

I put all of this up here because I thought it may have been of interest to some people.  :)

Thank you very much.  :) ;)



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