Are these records:the same man

[brigidmac]

He.s my brother in laws grandfather

Not sure what you mean parents and wife ?
Children were ivy Chaplin b 1914
Joan M Chaplin b1922 Eric Alfred b1923

[brigidmac]

Sorry ..Fathers name was Alfred b1867 Newton Suffolk

Younger siblings were James 1890
William 1893
Rosa 1895
Eliza Caroline  born  1904
All born Fullham

[brigidmac]

The boys were in the Hackney cab driving business .I suppose drivers were needed in WW1 that's why of all technical Alfred T.s I noticed this one

I don't know what the chances are of him being correct 1

It's my first look at military records

PS stumbled across a ceremony for rememberance week today
So peace and goodwill to all

[brigidmac]

The details  about this man are on Ancestry  I don't know if you can access this link if you are not a member
Or if it is open to public yet
..the privacy settings don't take effect immediately

The military  records I found are referenced there ...
And I downloaded  a pic of the word that was hard to decipher. .."driver ...or disc "

The link is on reply 44 of this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=795730.msg6525454#msg6525454

[MaxD]

ASC is the Army Service Corps, a vast organisation with many different units.  www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-army-service-corps-in-the-first-world-war/
His number prefix M2 says he was with a Mechanical Transport unit.

It seems someone has copied out the details on the medal card.  I can't tell from this or your other thread whether you have seen the medal card itself which is at the  National Archives and on Ancestry.  If you have then you have seen all there is to be found for that man.  If not, shout.

MaxD

[brigidmac]

Is the someone on Ancestry. .me  ?
 I tried to copy documents but didn't think I'd been successful
Tried to copy the bit with the  word " drive"

Mechanical transport corps but there is another Alfred T Chaplin  cab driver born 1888   I think he was a cousin .

Did you see those 2 records and have any  more information from the refs ?

Either way we now know the 2 documents relate to same man .

[brigidmac]

Thanks so much for your patience and explanations max

How do I know if it is original medal card or copieD?

[MaxD]

As you have Ancestry, this link should take you to what is the genuine original medal card which has all the markings you posted at the beginning:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1262/30850_A000308-00818?pid=1602078&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DJdV5940%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1262%26gsfn%3Dalfred%26gsln%3Dchaplin%26cp%3D4%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26redir%3Dfalse%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D39%26fh%3D20%26h%3D1602078%26recoff%3D9%252011%26ml_rpos%3D21&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=JdV5940&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

In their transcription, Ancestry have seen fit to render M2 as MN and his middle initial is given as T.
The writing on the card in the column headed Roll is the location of the ASC medal roll in which he appears and from which the card is produced.  The roll entry is here:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5119/41629_625537_9858-00039?pid=2373937&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DJdV5943%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D5119%26gsfn%3Dalfred%26gsln%3Dchaplin%26cp%3D4%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26redir%3Dfalse%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D39%26fh%3D20%26h%3D2373937%26recoff%3D5%25207%26ml_rpos%3D21&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=JdV5943&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

This gives his full name as Alfred Thomas Chaplin. 
The other record is on FindMyPast and that is the Silver War Badge listing (note the medal card has the ASC number 3531).  This doesn't have the list number (3531) but that is on the transcription.

That is at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM/SILVERWAR/BADGES/799991

So all these are Alfred Thomas Chaplin.  However, they don't, as said, have any personal detail to identify him as to family/place of birth etc.

I haven't had any success in finding the other Alfred T, cab driver, 1888 - can you direct me to what you have there please and we'll see what we make of it.
See next post
MaxD

[MaxD]

I now see the Alfred Thomas Chaplin born Q2 1888 Fulham son of Alfred. Both cab drivers in 1911. (I was looking in miltary records).

Circumstantial but it was exceedingly common for men who could already drive to be snapped up by the Mechanical Transport side of the ASC.  Car ownership among the working classes at that time was almost unknown so men already trained for the army's needs got the MT side off to a good start.

Can't prove it but my money is on the Fulham man being the one for whom the medal records exist.

MaxD