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Annie Viret married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890 in Q June 1868 in Clifton.
Herbert Lant Carpenter 1874-1923 and Henry Cort Carpenter 1875-1940 were sons from the marriage.
Annie Carpenter appears to be living alone in Clevedon in the 1881 census. There's an Annie Viret 49 in the 1891 census living in Fulham. Could this be our Annie?
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I'd like to know what happened to her. Family records have not recorded a date of death.
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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 05:40 BST (UK) »
William Carpenter divorced her petition filed 24 February 1881, decree nisi awarded 4 April 1881,
William has custody of the children, final decree was granted 25 April 1882.

Adultery with dates and places named in an affidavit, the man was a Robert Latham and in 1881, Annie and Robert were living at 32 Southwark Street, Cambridge Terrace, Middlesex. This would have been April 1881. 

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 05:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much. What a scandal!  :o
I wonder if Annie married Mr Latham?
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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 17:20 BST (UK) »
Looking at the 1881 Census
Paddington
St John Paddington
District 13a

Page 56 of 57

32 Southwick Street   (next to: 38 Cambridge Terrace)   is a Lodging House owned by Sarah JAMES aged 60

and is next door to 38 Cambridge Terrace

? so assumed Robert & Annie were staying at this lodging house

other places  mentioned : Spread Eagle Hotel, Gloucester and Golden Cross Hotel, Charing Cross.

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 17:32 BST (UK) »
Hmm. I have yet to find a 1881 census record for Annie and Robert together.
The 1881 census record that I'd already found for Annie Carpenter in Clevedon still seems to fit.
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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 June 18 08:48 BST (UK) »
I'm inclined to go with the 1881 that you found rkive.

I found an Anne Viret in the 1851 census living at Campbell Farm, Westbury-on-Trym, Clifton

Registration District is Clilfton
Piece number   1955
Folio   191
Page   14

Couple of birth registrations that fit the birthplaces given in the 1851

VIRET, ANN       HARPER     
GRO Reference: 1842  M Quarter in ST JAMES CLERKENWELL  Volume 03  Page 97   

VIRET, MARY  ANN     HARPUR     
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in THAME UNION  Volume 16  Page 131

The other Viret is referred to as Sophia.  I see from the image that the two girls are down as Adopted Child.  I cannot see any birth registration for Sophia that fits date and place wise.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 June 18 09:14 BST (UK) »
A death for Sophia - it is Sophia on Find My Past - presumably the transcriber for Freebmd couldn't quite read the name.

Deaths Sep 1879   
Viret    Sophie    35    Barton R.    6a   39

There is a probate record for Sophia - 1 September 1879 - The will of Sophia Viret formerly of 11 Princes Buildings but late of 110 Pembroke Road both in Clifton in the City and County of Bristol Spinster who died 17 August 1879 at 110 Pembroke Road, was proved at Bristol by Russell Forbes Carpenter of 56 Regent's Park Road, Regent's Park, in the County of Middlesex, Gentleman, and William Lant Carpenter of 110 Pembroke Road, Gentleman, the executors.

William was Annie's husband so presumably kept in touch with what I assume was his sister-in-law.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 June 18 09:23 BST (UK) »
Reading the Divorce Papers:  dated 21 February 1881 William Lant CARPENTER has written he is living at Winifred House, 110 Pembroke Road, County in the County of Somerset - and cohabited there with his Wife, also at 12 Brighton Park, Oakfield Road, Clifton, Bristol.

Sophia VIRET (Ancestry has her as Veral VIRET) is on the 1871 census living at 11 Princess Buildings with her mother Hannah Mary REYNOLDS and is would seem both, Ann and Sophia were adopted - according to census returns.

Assume this is Sophia's baptism at Tetsworth, Oxford : 26 February 1843

parents: Charles & Mary Ann VIRET - died


(tree on Ancestry) - and the two sisters, Ann and Sophia (VIRCH) on the 1851 census are living in Westbury on Trym with Governess, Elizabeth ALLMAN  - with notes 'Heads from home'.

Brother Charles  (born 1840) later Probate mentions his sister Sophia in Bristol.

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 June 18 15:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for your input.
I'll add Sophia to my tree.
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What happened to Annie after the divorce still remains a mystery.
The 1891 census record for Annie G Viret - what do you make of that?
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