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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 28 June 18 16:59 BST (UK) »
That 1891 census you have looks good.  Looking at the image reveals the head to be Sister Superior in charge of Diocesan Penitentiary.

Annie is listed as an assistant embroideress, widow, age 49, birthplace London.

There is a death record for her husband as below:-

Deaths Dec 1890   
Carpenter    William Lant    49    Hendon    3a   130

There is a probate record for him in 1891.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 June 18 17:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you.
So where did Annie (Grace?) Carpenter née Viret go after 1891?
 ???
Annie, Sophia and brother Charles have records on the GRO with mother's maiden name Harper, but ..
Another tree on Anc***** has their mother as Mary Ann Cort. Cort is a name that appears later in the family, so this is credible, but is she the same person as Ms Harper?
Charles Viret Sr and Mary Ann Cort were born around 1802 so they could quite easily have been married before.
There's also a marriage record for a Charles Viret and a Mary Linders in Tetsworth, Oxfordshire in 1840.
Hmmm
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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 June 18 17:20 BST (UK) »
Don't know if it is significant but there is a passport application in April 1896 for a Mrs. A. Viret.  Is this Annie or someone else?  ::)

There is also one for an Annie Viret on 13 October 1859 no. 11854.  Not well up on passports so don't know if it is possible to view the original application.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 28 June 18 17:22 BST (UK) »

There is a death record for her husband as below:-

Deaths Dec 1890   
Carpenter    William Lant    49    Hendon    3a   130

There is a probate record for him in 1891.

He committed suicide, there are a few newspaper articles online
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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 28 June 18 17:34 BST (UK) »
The Petition of William Lant CARPENTER gives date/place of marriage to Ann - and also the children's dob -

Marriage:

4 April 1868  lawfully married Anne CARPENTER then Annie VIRET Spinster, at the Unitarian Church Oakfield Road, Clifton, Bristol in the County of Gloucester.

First lived with his said Wife at 12 Brighton Park, Oakfield Road, Clifton Bristol, in the County of Somerset and then Winifred House, 110 Pembroke Road, Clifton.

4 children

Herbert Lant Viret CARPENTER born 5th day of February 1874
Henry (crossed out) Harold Henry CORT CARPENTER born the 6 day of February 1875
Hannah Mary Reynolds CARPENTER born the 13th day of January 1876
Mary Louisa CARPENTER born the 3rd day of April 1878 (all of whom are still living)

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 28 June 18 19:04 BST (UK) »
I'm looking again at the parents of Annie, Sophia, Charles and Mary Ann (born and died 1845) Viret -
Charles Viret and Mary Ann.
I haven't found a marriage record for a Mary Ann Harper/Harpur/Cort.
In fact, I haven't seen the Cort connection at all. It's in the other tree on Anc*****.
 ???
Richard
P.S. The links I've seen referring to William Lant Carpenter's suicide require a subscription, so I haven't read a full account.
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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 28 June 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
Sorry, in a bit of a rush, but looking at the GRO Index,   the brother Charles VIRET, born 1840 in Thames Union could be the one

registered : D Qtr 1839, THAME UNION, Mother's maiden name: HARPER  also Ann VIRET - mother's maiden name: HARPER 1842, London

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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 28 June 18 19:22 BST (UK) »
"Annie, Sophia and brother Charles have records on the GRO with mother's maiden name Harper, but ..
Another tree on Anc***** has their mother as Mary Ann Cort. Cort is a name that appears later in the family, so this is credible, but is she the same person as Ms Harper?"
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Yes. I have the four children with mmn Harper or Harpur.
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Re: Annie Viret b 1842 married William Lant Carpenter 1841-1890. When did she die?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 28 June 18 19:42 BST (UK) »

On the 1851 census, Charles VERET, age 11  born Tetsworth, Bedfordshire, is in the London Orphan Asylum - Middlesex -