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Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« on: Wednesday 27 June 18 15:14 BST (UK) »
Agnes Cowan was born in Toronto in 1916 to James and Margaret Cowan, both of whom emigrated from Paisley. Margaret died in 1920 in Canada, and James, Agnes and John (my father, born Toronto in 1914) came back to North Street, Paisley, Scotland in 1921 on the Saturnia. Sometime between 1921 and 1930 Agnes was fostered to John McInnes (1864 - 1931) a Paisley publican and Elizabeth McInnes / nee Cowan (1868 - 1934). I have a family photo dated 1930 with Agnes and "stepfather" John McInnes. I can trace the full history of James, Margaret and John Cowan, plus John and Elizabeth McInnes, but not a trace of Agnes in Scotland's People, Find My Past or Ancestry using both Cowan and McInnes surnames.

I have had help in earlier threads regarding James Cowan. Can anyone offer any suggestions regarding Agnes? I would be very grateful. Many thanks in advance.
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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 15:44 BST (UK) »
This may seem an odd suggestion but have you tried Gowan &/or Mc/Mac G/Cowan?

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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 June 18 08:49 BST (UK) »
Have you checked Scotlands People for the Agnes Martin MacInnes who died in Shettleston 1936 age 22 ?

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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 June 18 11:48 BST (UK) »
Annie - I have searched these variants on Scotland's People without any success.

Shanghaipanda - the birth year does not fit and "my" Agnes had no middle name. Also, family gossip has it that she was alive at least until the 1960's, if not longer.

Thank you both for your help.

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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 June 18 16:42 BST (UK) »
Sometime between 1921 and 1930 Agnes was fostered to John McInnes (1864 - 1931) a Paisley publican and Elizabeth McInnes / nee Cowan (1868 - 1934).

Just thinking aloud!

Agnes was b 1916, fostered 1921 - 1930 aged 5 - 14 yrs old.

Foster father John McInnes died 1931 & Elizabeth died 1934 (Agnes c 18 yrs old)

Did John & Elizabeth have children of their own?
Who was the informant on Elizabeth's death?
Where did Elizabeth die?
What relationship was Agnes to Elizabeth Cowan/McInnes?
Was there any mention of Agnes having married?
Have you looked for a marriage for Agnes?
Often timelines in family stories can be out by quite a lot of years.
Is it possible Agnes used the surname M(a)cInnes?
If she never married, used the surname McInnes then it's possible when she died the informant may not have known her actual birth surname?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 June 18 16:59 BST (UK) »
What was the maiden surname of Agnes' mother?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 June 18 17:35 BST (UK) »
Looking at the earlier thread it was Wilson -
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754637.0


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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 June 18 18:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ev!,

Was actually about to request links to previous posts for info. possibly already given.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 June 18 14:30 BST (UK) »
Annie

Thanks for your input, and apologies for taking so long to get back to you.

I have found no record of John and Elizabeth McInnes having children of their own.

The informant for Elizabeth's death - Paisley 1934 - was Daniel Carlton, someone I have no knowledge of. John's death informant was his brother Thomas.

James Cowan (1879 - 1934) was Elizabeth Mcinnes's brother. Parents were John Cowan (1840 - 1923) and Janet Cowan nee Gardener (1840 - 1919). John and Janet has the following other children - Agnes, John, Hugh and Colin.

I have no knowledge of Agnes having married and extensive searches on Scotland's People using both the Cowan and McInnes surnames have drawn a blank.

Ian
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