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Re: william james smyth, ww1
« Reply #9 on: Friday 29 June 18 08:13 BST (UK) »
A 1902 map of Ballyclare shows Le Ballyclare at the bottom (southeast) end of the town in the vicinity of the intersection of the Ballynure Road and Green Road.  There are several newspaper references c. 1916 to Ardenmore Terrace in Ballyclare. 

The 1901 Ireland census lists a number of households there:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballyclare/Le_Ballyclare/

Tracking forward to 1911 shows several of the 1901 folk living in the Green Road / Ballynure Road area.


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Re: william james smyth, ww1
« Reply #10 on: Friday 29 June 18 15:22 BST (UK) »
find my past

William James Smyth Lance Corporal service number 18798
http://www.findmypast.co.uk

Ulster war memorial under Symth.

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Re: william james smyth, ww1
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 30 June 18 11:16 BST (UK) »

I'm going to have a very speculative punt on this chap, on the money for Glarryford:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02164/1819961.pdf

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/kilconway/rasharkin/dromore/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Templepatrick/Ballymartin/111954/


In the above 1911 Ballymartin census return for railway labourer John Smyth and his wife Martha Rogers, note the daughter Maria.  Her 1890 birth registration shows that she had the relatively more distinctive name of Maria Curry Smyth:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02433/1905716.pdf 

Then note the following marriage in July 1921, the bride was listed as Maria Currie Smyth, daughter of John Smyth a railway official, but the most interesting part is Maria's residence - Green Road Le-Ballyclare:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09230/5339721.pdf

So my punt on the identity of William James Smyth is sounding a bit more promising.



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Re: william james smyth, ww1
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 30 June 18 13:33 BST (UK) »
In the military record for William James Smyth (no. 18798), his given address for receipt of his war badge and certificate in January 1917 was 4 Ardenmore Terrace, Green Road, Ballyclare. 

William James Smyth joined the Royal Irish Rifles at Clandeboye on 18 September 1914.

A 20 year old Robert Smyth joined the Royal Irish Rifles at Clandeboye on the exact same day, his number was the one before William James' number (18797), Robert said he was born in Glarryford, his father was given as John Smyth of 4 Ardenmmore Terrace, Ballyclare, County Antrim.

Robert's birth registration, again, on the money for Glarryford:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02264/1850805.pdf

So all in all, now a strong case for who William James Smyth was, although I don't know where he was buried.   


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Re: william james smyth, ww1
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 30 June 18 21:36 BST (UK) »
This is all great stuff. Really appreciate the input from everyone who has replied. Will follow up the Glarryford leads; in the meantime, many thanks - and all further suggestions welcome.