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Offline Annette7

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Re: Marriage for Samuel Harding.
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 July 18 01:08 BST (UK) »
I'm sorry but the marriage you state 19/3/1871 Hillingdon is not for a George James Harding to Ellen Elizabeth Paxton - it is for a plain George Harding  son of a Joseph Harding, who married an Eliza Gobel??

There is no marriage listed between Harding and Paxton in the UK at all.  There was no George James Harding born in Bristol can. 1834 and no William James Harding or Paxton bc.1870 in New Brompton.

Where does the information that George James Harding was born in Bristol come from?

It's all very odd as nothing can be substantiated.

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Re: Marriage for Samuel Harding.
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 July 18 01:14 BST (UK) »
William James HARDING, born 1870 New Brompton is the brother of my grandfather and their parents are George James Harding and Ellen Elizabeth Paxton, New Brompton is named as the birth place of William when he married in Tasmania...it's stated on his marriage certificate.

I was given Bristol as the birth place for George and I have had it for a number of years and it also comes from the late daughter of William.

This is really confusing now, thank you for taking the time to help.

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Re: Marriage for Samuel Harding.
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 01 July 18 01:54 BST (UK) »
You are wanting to account for possible HARDING - PAXTON births between 1870 and 1875?

Is this death, 9 Jul 1939, at Launceston, your Ellen Elizabeth HARDING?

The Mercury 10 Jul 1939
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25596273?

The death certificate would ask for......years in the colony....issue...

Issue would be given as number of males / females, alive, deceased.


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Re: Marriage for Samuel Harding.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 01 July 18 02:14 BST (UK) »
I can see a baptism for a George James HARDING in 1834 at Westminster with parents Henry and Ann Jane.  Is that the one?  I am not sure what this has to do with Bristol.

Debra  :)

I realise you have  proved this is not the right George but just to add to that proof

Departure from England 27 Nov 1872. ship Clairellen, for Hobart
George 27 , Ellen 24 and William 2.

So George born about 1844/5 not 1834
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Marriage for Samuel Harding.
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 01 July 18 03:41 BST (UK) »
I saw that document and George's age differs greatly from his death record.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-63p136j2k

Many people fibbed about their age to qualify for the various assistance schemes, but equally many informants got the age wrong when someone died, so it is difficult to know which is correct unless another mention of his age can be found.

Ellen's death notice says that she was born in Ramsgate but IF she was the daughter of Mark PAXTON and Matilda MILLS then she was born in Leicestershire, though her family did live in Ramsgate at some stage as a brother was born there.  She is still at home with the family in April 1871 with no sign of an infant and 18 months later she was leaving England with George.  The PAXTON family stayed in Kent but she could have gone anywhere in that time period.

There was no marriage so he possibly already had a family.  I would be looking at all the George HARDINGs born between 1830 and 1850 to see if any were railway workers in April 1871.

Debra  :)

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Re: Marriage for Samuel Harding.
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 01 July 18 03:56 BST (UK) »
I don't know why they have her born in Ramsgate in her obituary, I have always had her birth place as
Leicester, and her parents being Mark and Matilda.

When George died in 1894 his death certificate has his age as 61 years so this would have him born around 1833, there is also no marriage for the pair in Tasmania so I am at a loss, I will do as you suggest and do a search for George in the years mentioned.

Thank you so much for your help, it's very much appreciated.

kind Regards

Cienna :)