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Mariam Yates
« on: Friday 29 June 18 14:41 BST (UK) »
I have a g.g.g. grandfather Henry Yates born to Alice Yates  in Inkberrow and baptised according to IGI/Familysearch on October 10, 1807.  He, according to Familysearch  had a younger sister Maria  also born to Alice Yates.

I have had no problem fully documenting Henry from birth to death and exactly the opposite with Mariam who of course could be Maria or Miriam etc.. I cannot find her under any of the possible names in 1841, nor marrying anyone nor dying.

I wonder if anyone can suggest other approaches?

Ken

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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 June 18 15:49 BST (UK) »
Do you know what happened to Alice?  Tracing her forward may lead onto her daughter. 
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 June 18 15:54 BST (UK) »
I found an Alice Yates on the 1841 census -spelt Gates but corrected to Yates. She was 65 years old and living in Inkberrow, so looks like she never married. Born approx. 1776. In Inkberrow also a Mary Yates who was buried in July 1811, doesn't say how old she was, but could account for why you have been unable to find her. Also later on in years a Mira Yates-Inkberrow married a George Colley 12/12/1860 so could also be a family member.
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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 June 18 16:01 BST (UK) »
Very prompt so thank you! I should have mentioned I had the Alice Yates 1841 census entry but I did NOT have the 1811 death so I think you may be right - the poor lass never made it to puberty.

The Mira Yates I have all the way to her death and that of her husband . He was 94, she 83, they'd had 15 children and according to the 1911 census eleven had died. Hard times...

Presumably then if I simply look up a Mary Yates death it will appear. Thank you again.

Ken
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Gerrat, Davidson, Caffey, McCourt, McDill, Ireland +Scotland. Ballard, Mayman,
 Pletts, Shield, Pattison, Patteson, Johnston(Cumberland).
Thorp(e), Jacobson, Bond, Parry, Gaskill (Liverpool, Denmark), Moar, Hanaeus,Ilett
Simmons, Pritchard, Cherrington (Shropshire)

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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 June 18 16:05 BST (UK) »
1841 Census has Alice not born in County.

Possible Marriage for Alice 26 September 1849 Inkberrow to Samuel James.

1841 we have under Sames;
Samuel James 65
William James 35
Alice Yates 65
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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 June 18 16:12 BST (UK) »
For some reason 1851 Alice James is down as Harriet James born c 1775 Gloucester, Pebisoith

Alice YATE christened 7 Aig 1774 Pebworth, Gloucestershire
Parents ROBERT/MARY Yate
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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 June 18 16:25 BST (UK) »
Death Regs GRO Index;

JAMES, ALICE age 84****
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in OF ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK AND WORCEST  Volume 06D  Page 345


JAMES, SAMUEL age 83**
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK AND WORCESTER  Volume 06D  Page 339

Alice has several siblings on F/S.Org 1756-1779 under Yate/Yeat, same Parents Robert/Mary
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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 June 18 16:43 BST (UK) »
So looks like Alice did Marry Ken and M/C will confirm her Fathers name/occp but it all looks good to me.

Trish :)
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Re: Mariam Yates
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 June 18 07:16 BST (UK) »
Trish,
Only just got back to this and am astounded! I haven't as yet checked but can't see why you aren't correct.

At a stroke you've pushed me back when I thought it would be impossible.

I've also seen that Ancestry has released millions of Danish records so I'll be busy for some time.

Sometimes I think I'm not very clever but luckily you and Rootschat have rescued me.

Thanks!

Ken

Cuthbert, Roberts (Sefton. Bootle, Liverpool, St. Pancras), Burbage, Dodd.
Allison (Scotland, pre 1861) (Liverpool post 1860),
Gerrat, Davidson, Caffey, McCourt, McDill, Ireland +Scotland. Ballard, Mayman,
 Pletts, Shield, Pattison, Patteson, Johnston(Cumberland).
Thorp(e), Jacobson, Bond, Parry, Gaskill (Liverpool, Denmark), Moar, Hanaeus,Ilett
Simmons, Pritchard, Cherrington (Shropshire)