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Re: Witness's first name?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 29 June 18 21:54 BST (UK) »
There was a Selina Sutton who was buried in St Margaret's Leicester in 1839. Born circa 1811  :-\
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Re: Witness's first name?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 29 June 18 22:04 BST (UK) »
Gadget,

What I was meaning was, the name Selina in an English accent could sound like Selinar i.e. written likewise  :-\

I had a friend at school named Fiona & our English Teacher insisted on calling her Fionar  ::)

Annie

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Re: Witness's first name?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 29 June 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
Just looked at the image online. It could be a female as the other witness was a Dan and when looked at at normal size it does look like Slinar.

Looked at this word for a few hours and I can only see SLINAR [a surname too apparently] or beginning SLIR (SLIRIAR)

Eng & Wales Forename examples found beginning SLIN ... :-
SLINA
SLINTON
SLINABY
SLINAS
SLINOS
SLINDAR
SLINDER

E & W Forename examples begining SLIR ... :-
SLIREN (used with other Male name)
SLIRIAN (used with other Female name)

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« Reply #21 on: Friday 29 June 18 22:14 BST (UK) »
Gadget,

What I was meaning was, the name Selina in an English accent could sound like Selinar i.e. written likewise  :-\

I had a friend at school named Fiona & our English Teacher insisted on calling her Fionar  ::)

Annie

Yes, I  thought that afterwards. That's why I went looking and found a Selina. Ratby is not far from Leicester.

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Re: Witness's first name?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 29 June 18 22:24 BST (UK) »
Slenar appears too.

But the shaping of the letters in the surname SUTTON are very deliberate (strong) and clear, spelling SUTTON, so I wouldn't think the forename was a scribbled name.

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Added: a Witness to a Wedding doesn't have to be local, they could be from another country, or happen to be visiting from another country around the time of the wedding.

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 29 June 18 22:41 BST (UK) »
Slenar appears too.

I wouldn't think the forename was a scribbled name.

I don't think anyone believes it to be 'scribbled', more of written how it sounded & trying to establish what may be correct?

Many names can be written in different ways e.g.

Catherine/Cathrine/Catharine not to mention beginning 'K' too.

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 29 June 18 22:43 BST (UK) »

Added: a Witness to a Wedding doesn't have to be local, they could be from another country, or happen to be visiting from another country around the time of the wedding.

Given that the bride's surname was Sutton, it is fairly likely that the witness was a relation.

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Re: Witness's first name?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 29 June 18 23:09 BST (UK) »
I cant find anything relating to a Selina or the Selina Sutton 1811 to my Sarah.
This is the family I have for Sarah based on what she gives consistently on Census.

Sarah Sutton born about 1815 Barlestone, Leicestershire (6.7 Miles walking from Ratby)

Parents -
The Only Suttons in Barlestone are John Sutton c1761 - 1842 Ag Labourer and his wife Elizabeth Pool 1785-1863.
John Sutton firstly marries Hannah Pool 1791 Barlestone. John is of Kirby Muxloe, Hannah of Barlestone.
They have the following Children -
John Sutton bapt 1795 Barlestone
Possibly the John Sutton who marries 1827 Nailstone?

Hannah dies sometime between 1795 and 1810 and John is a Widower and remarries to Elizabeth Pool in 1810 Barlestone. He is 44 she is 25 according to License.
These are the only children baptised in Barlestone after the marriage of 1810 -
Sophia Sutton bapt 1819 Barlestone dau of John and Elizabeth.
On Sophias marriage in 1845 she lists her father as John Sutton, Labourer.
Elizabeth Sutton bapt 1822 Barlestone dau of John and Elizabeth
Elizabeth is living with John in 1841 although the age is slightly out by a couple of years.

There seems to be a gap 1810-1819 so its possible Sarah is born within this timeframe and was never baptised or records are damaged or not all transcribed?
Richard Dudley of Cosby. Gent
George Bent of Cosby. Gent
William Black of Kilby. Gent
Bernard Cotton of Dadlington. Esq
Sir Thomas Halford of Wistow. Bart
Richard Swynfen of Sutton Cheney. Gent
John Cotes of Aylestone. Gent
John Freeston of East Norton. Gent
Sir John Bernard of Abington.
Edward Shuckburgh of Naseby. Esq
Richard Worsley of Deeping. Esq
Thomas Hobson of Glen. Gent
John Grant of Stretton Parva. Gent
John Miles of Heanley Hall. Gent
Thomas Dabridgecourt. Esq
Sir Clement Edmondes

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Re: Witness's first name?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 29 June 18 23:11 BST (UK) »
I did firstly think Sophia was the witness but the name bears no resemblance at all to writing. Unless someone else wrote the names and somehow managed to mistake Sophia for something like Selina?
Richard Dudley of Cosby. Gent
George Bent of Cosby. Gent
William Black of Kilby. Gent
Bernard Cotton of Dadlington. Esq
Sir Thomas Halford of Wistow. Bart
Richard Swynfen of Sutton Cheney. Gent
John Cotes of Aylestone. Gent
John Freeston of East Norton. Gent
Sir John Bernard of Abington.
Edward Shuckburgh of Naseby. Esq
Richard Worsley of Deeping. Esq
Thomas Hobson of Glen. Gent
John Grant of Stretton Parva. Gent
John Miles of Heanley Hall. Gent
Thomas Dabridgecourt. Esq
Sir Clement Edmondes