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Re: Cadder baptism 1828, anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 30 June 18 22:30 BST (UK) »
The place is indeed Gartgill, ("Gargill" - old spelling on John Thomson's Atlas of Scotland 1832). 
See attached https://maps.nls.uk/view/74400128

Gargill can be found in square (E,b), and if reverting to current style of easting/northing grid references, the nearest estimated location is at (E6, b1).

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Re: Cadder baptism 1828, anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 July 18 07:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks both for the confirmation.

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Re: Cadder baptism 1828, anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 01 July 18 07:51 BST (UK) »
The NLS 'side-by-side' maps show how Gartgill grew and pretty much disappeared over the years by changing the old map from one era to another.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=55.8788&lon=-4.0479&layers=5&right=BingHyb

It looks like all that remains on the ground now to remember Gartgill by is a street called Gartgill Road. The houses and other buildings have all gone.

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Re: Cadder baptism 1828, anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 July 18 14:13 BST (UK) »
I think it is gartgill rd which runs between gartsherry rd and wilton st townhead. there is railway cottages as there once was a station there it was my playground.


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Re: Cadder baptism 1828, anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 July 18 17:25 BST (UK) »
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS7267 has some photos of Gartgill Road.
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Re: Cadder baptism 1828, anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 03 July 18 16:34 BST (UK) »
Out of interest, I put the word Gargell into a newspaper search for Lanarkshire.

It produced a few results but, one may be of interest
Glasgow Herald Dated 13 Jan 1875 ( more than 40 yrs after the 1828 birth in the OP)

Heading: Notes On Miners Housing (11) by our own correspondent.

Ot was obviously  No 11 of an ongoing report into the conditions of Miners Housing.
This particular report centred on a one day tour made by the journalist Mon 11 Jan 1875:


He picked up an "engine" from Coatbridge which allowed him to visit several places during daylight hours.
He visited, Gargell, Gartloss, Rosehall,Greenend, Faskin, and Woodhall.
He didn't think the  conditions of the miners houses were too bad but, the water supply was defective and clearly contaminated.

He made a reporters joke about Gargell.
Indicating that he would not be able to direct you there with any degree on confidence!
The only way to reach it is to pass through the town of Gartsherrie ( mentioned the name Baird was a force to be reckoned with ).

"Strike across  an uneven country with very bad roads, and at length tumbled out at Gargell."
He then describes it as a extremely small unpleasant place.
A single row of 11 houses also owned by Messrs Baird.

Two had slate roofs, the rest were primitive thatch.
An open drain runs through the gardens and empties into an underground sewer.

The water supply was the biggest issue here too.
The residents preferred to travel to the railway station to collect clean water rather than use the supply at Gargell